What is a reasonable answer for why UFC held test results for a month?

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  1. Der Eisbär

    Der Eisbär Banned Banned

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    Can anyone think of a reasonable and logical explanation for why the UFC would withhold drug test results for so long?

    Every time ive ever taken a drug test that had to be sent to a lab, it took two weeks tops and thats with mail time.

    Why would the UFC release the results of a drug test from early December a month later AFTER the fight? Can anyone think of a reasonable answer for this?
     
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    Because the Fertitas run the casinos and wanted to make more money thinking DC would win
     
  3. Mixedfights

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    Would you release them?
     
  4. IAfight

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    This last fight with Cormier was a big event for the UFC financially. There was no way that they were going to jeopardize that cash cow. Jones is one of a few big money makers for the UFC.
     
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    Steve08 American Fedor Belt

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    All I can think of is the notion that the UFC knew it was liable to happen, but didn't really want to step in for one reason or another, perhaps due to negative implications towards UFC officials that may have arisen, but I'm pretty high, it's late, and that's a rather vague idea.
    Well, yeah. The fact that a UFC champion tested positive for a Schedule I substance (I don't care if it's not on WADA's list, it is an illegal substance) is kind of a big deal.

    It makes the UFC look bad regardless of what they do about it, but if they were to immediately publicize this info as soon as they were realistically able to, it would lend credence to the idea that they actually do care about enforcing the fighter code of conduct, which is what they are trying to do by supporting Jones's "rehab" without actually doing anything about it at all.

    Beyond that, Jimmy Smith raised possibly the most pertinent question of all:

    Why drug test at all if you are not actually going to follow through with penalties? Doesn't add up. If all he is going to get is a slap on the wrist for failing any test but the one immediately after the fight, the actual tests are literal formalities at best.

    Now, I could be mistaken, but wasn't Vitor's fighter license revoked after he tested positive out of competition? And if that is the case, is there not a precedent for revoking a fighter license for testing positive (for anything) out of competition, or are we really going to give an illegal substance a pass just because it isn't on the WADA's list?

    This shit is fucked up man.
     
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    Yeah because they don't care about what you and I think; all they care about is dead presidents!
     
  7. cakemuncher

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    Maybe they also wanted to see the result of the fight. If he had lost his title, perhaps there would have been more consequences for him.

    But ultimately money trumps everything.
     
  8. JsinLegacy

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    Because they had nothing deemed PED that would affect the fight.
     
  10. Mike Unhinged

    Mike Unhinged Orange Belt

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    Cocaine is not Schedule I... it is used legally in dentistry.
     
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    Fight loving Jesus freaks would have refused to pay to watch him fight.
     
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    So much to say, but You cant fix stupid
     
  13. Steve08

    Steve08 American Fedor Belt

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    Really? huh. I did not know that. Oh well.

    As an aside, I was going to say it's retarded that cocaine is not Schedule I and weed is, but I don't really know if it's as "medicinal" as people claim it is.
    Regardless of what schedule it is placed under, cocaine is still a controlled substance by any standard, and I doubt very much that Jones is a licensed dentist, but thanks for insulting my intelligence, I guess.

    "Except when dispensed directly by a practitioner, other than a pharmacist, to an ultimate user, no controlled substance in Schedule II, which is a prescription drug as determined under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 USC 301 et seq.), may be dispensed without the written prescription of a practitioner, except that in emergency situations, as prescribed by the Secretary by regulation after consultation with the Attorney General, such drug may be dispensed upon oral prescription in accordance with section 503(b) of that Act (21 USC 353."
     
  14. King Charles**

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    Yea these idiots all in an uproar citing laws & don't even know the 411 is comical lol.

    Yea & he can't possibly have dental work performed on him either, good call.
     
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    to save the card
     
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    According to the rules what jones tested positive for isn't forbidden out of competition according to the wada. Why I don't know but that is the rule. Also lol at weed a schedule I. Go to colorado oregon or washington.
     
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    I didn't think of that, but if he really did test positive because he ingested cocaine in such an innocuous circumstance, why would they wait a month to talk about it? It would make more sense to try and clear his name right away, at least from my perspective. Plus, I assume he wouldn't go so far as to be checking himself into rehab (as legitimate as that may or may not be), if he just accidentally tested positive for coke without ever snorting it strictly for a high.

    But that's just me. Bruh.

    That's also assuming you don't buy into all this talk about his habit being well known for years amongst fighters and industry officials. Meaning he just coincidentally had dental work done the day before a random drug test.

    Now, is that possible? In literal terms, yes, but depending on who you ask, not very.
    Why "lol", unless weed is magically no longer classified as a Schedule I substance because it happens to be available for "medicinal" purposes in a vast minority of the country?
     
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    Rehab is damage control for PR in a lot of cases.
     
  19. Street Level

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    Idk TS, this is a weird subject.

    I feel like coke is the complete opposite of a performance enhancer if you're training and if you can pass a pre fight and post fight drug screen then you should be good from a competition standpoint and should just deal with the moral reprocussions.
    I'm not apologizing for Jones but any adult can make grown up decisions and do grown up things. The difference is that if I got popped for any drugs peoples opinion of me would be altered and that's what he is going to have to deal with but I don't have a twitter nor do I sell any ppvs so noone is going to give 2 shitez.
    The UFC chose to not drop the ball and I agree with it. I wanted to see this fight as much as anyone else on this board (the hype WAS nuts) and if they didn't want this to jeopardize the fight and he could pass his physicals like any other fighter then let the fight go on. Postponing this fight again would have been worse since the results were going to come out sooner or later.
     
  20. Steve08

    Steve08 American Fedor Belt

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    Sure. But how likely is that based on the scenario you just proposed? I'm talking about accidentally testing positive for a substance that you ingested with written permission from a doctor. I can't think of any precedents, but surely the testimony of the doctor as well as his credentials would be enough in those circumstances. "rehab" would be a complete waste of time unless it actually is all just a front.

    Bear in mind that we are again discussing this in the realm of hypothetical scenarios where several people who know Jones better than us aren't saying the dude loves coke.
     

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