What if Bush nuked Afghanistan after 9/11?

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  1. JosephDredd

    JosephDredd Gold Belt

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    Article here (link).

    It doesn't surprise me that they considered it, but I cannot AT ALL wrap my head around what the world would be like today if they pushed the button.
     
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  2. Hankooks

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    The world would be better off if the entire middle east was wiped off the planet. Tons of innocents would be dead but it would be for the greater good imo.
     
  3. Trollgrappler

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    Mountains of profitable minerals in Afghanistan. It is also the worlds main supplier of heroin. There is is no way they would ever have nuked the place.
     
  4. Quipling

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    Yeah, we could have prevented all several million deaths (many of them directly attributable to the US) of the past few decades by wiping out several hundred times as many.

    I bet all the people oppressed by those regimes would have been better off dead.

    Afghanistan's mineral wealth was discovered after the invasion. Similarly, their heroin production was actually far lower under the taliban - they didn't scale to world supplier until the last few years. You're using modern information to argue that it would have influenced decisions before it was known. That's not how causality works.
     
  5. Phanuel

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    What if Bush had accepted Mullah Omar and the Taliban offer to hand over bin laden in the months prior to 9/11? All's the Taliban asked in return was official recognition as the ruling Government of Afghanistan.


    oh the what ifs...
     
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    Heroin among many other things are an exports of Afghanistan and always has been and is very valuable for many gov't of the world that profit from importing it. Radiating this place would have been out of the question.

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    sorry ...couldn't resist.
     
  8. JosephDredd

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    I don't think I've heard about this until now. That's another interesting what if.
     
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    There's NO WAY President Bush was going to torch all of that revenue.
     
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    I read about that! The Aghan Gov't said they would be wiling to turn Bin-Laden over to a third party for trial and judgement..

    Dubya refused.


     
  11. JosephDredd

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    Holy FUUUUUUUUUCK.

    According to this youtube posting (link), that video is from February, 2001 -- seven months before 9/11. :eek:

    According to this article (link) the Taliban offered to deport Bin Laden in the summer of 2000.

    The article also says (after the bombing of the USS Cole in December, 2000):

    The Taliban actually detained Bin Laden under house arrest in anticipation of handing him over.

    The Bush administration cancelled so many meetings with the Taliban to conclude the deal that was already in place by the Clinton administration, including cancelling a meeting AFTER 9/11, that the Taliban joked that if the Bush administration could not afford fuel to reach Bin Laden with cruise missiles that the Taliban would pay for the fuel.

    A reporter named Pizzey aired a story on the deal, which had been finalized a year before in Frankfurt, and the Bush administration gave Mohabbat (the man the Bush administration paid to be liaison to the Taliban for these negotiations) a dressing down and told him "the game had changed, and he should tell the Taliban the new terms: surrender or be killed. Mohabbat declined to be the bearer of this news and went off the US government payroll."

    What a complete fucking failure by Bush. I have never heard of this before. The article finishes by outlining the sources they've been provided to verify this version of events since the Bush administration claimed the Taliban demanded the cessation of bombing.

    Can you imagine if Bush had just fulfilled the deal Clinton finalized to receive Bin Laden before 9/11? How different would the last 15 years have been?

    I am totally stunned.

    EDIT: I was so shocked by this article that I came back online to look back into it and cannot find anyone else who supports this version, so maybe I got suckered by a shitty conspiracy website. I can't find much information on the website itself.

    What it looks like is true is that the Taliban was willing to hand over Bin Laden in exchange for proof he was responsible for the 9/11 attacks.

    Here's a link to the content of an explosive Salon.com article which is no longer available on their website, but which has been copied all over the internet by some pretty reliable news media.

    New NSA documents contradict 9/11 claims (link).
     
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    See edit of previous post.
     
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    http://www.mining.com/1-trillion-motherlode-of-lithium-and-gold-discovered-in-afghanistan/

    Survey discovered the lode in 2007. Unless you have evidence to the contrary...?

    Leaving aside your stuff about heroin "profiting many gov't", you're simply wrong.

    Opium production wasnt big in Afghanistan until the 80s (Muhajadeen revenue source) and the Taliban under Mullah Omar reduced poppy production in afghanistan to the point where it was effectively nonexistence. It didn't recover to the point of significance until 2004 (two years AFTER the fall of the taliban), but I'm sure you have a gif to argue otherwise.
     
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    Comic books would be better if they just did a ton of what if's with our history and no superheroes involved.
     
  15. WrestlinganJudo

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    Afghanistan was in a civil war at the time.

    I highly doubt they would have done it no mater what.

    The military draws up plans for all kinds of situations just for the mental gymnastics of it.

    They have always played with what if situations even against our best allies as a learning tool.



    What if a large collection of people get a civil war going in France. Then the instigators trying to take over France offer to turn over someone that's wanted by us to recognize them as the official government of France.

    We would be taking a big poop on the Northern Alliance if we had made that deal with the Taliban.

    Long before 9-11 there were women's studies professors wanting to know why the US was not doing something about the Taliban treatment of women.
     
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  16. Makes sense in some ways I guess. Would of been better if we destroyed all that Opium as well. Shits a cancer to the world. Because we know damn well one of the worst drugs ever comes out of there. But if tactical nukes are to be used they should be used on Iran to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Simply take out their facilities.. Of course some conventional weapons can do that.
     
  17. BROKENSPROKET

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    I came here to say just that.
     
  18. Cid

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    Typically they don't profit from it but rather use it for neferious affairs. The Golden Crescent taking over from the Golden Triangle which took over from the Golden Crescent before that was not really that suprising if you're able to locate the pattern going on.
     
  19. loyalyolayal

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    I'm ok with it.
     
  20. M3t4tr0n

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    Lol I remember those what if comics back in the day from marvel.
     

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