What happened to the WAR Till promised?

[Workaholic]

You understand such thing as a "gameplan"? He planned to let Woodley tire himself the first two rounds and then come on strong. It just didnt happen. He probably thought Woodley would survive till the end, and that he'd win the decision by beating on him in the last 3 whilst Woodley gassed.

Woodley can fight forever if he's doing it at his own pace. If you aren't throwing at him and making him work he can probably go 10 rounds without gassing

If that was his game plan it was very poorly executed

 

[drbolony]

What makes Till impressive is that he can pressure fighters without throwing strikes. His feinting game is serviceable, and his physical presence is imposing enough to back fighters up to the cage. This had worked Till's entire career and it's obvious he had no plan b. Tyrone straight up out maneuvered this man plain and simple. He wasn't wrong when he said Tyrones best attribute is his mind.

 

[DrunkMonkMeth]

Till underestimated woodleys striking.. till is still a Very good strike with very good striking knowledge. But his dependant on muaythai style limits him alot. He also isnt too active against top lvl strikers because he can see the trap being set against him...

He went into the second wanting to be more aggressive prob due to the fear of how his last fight went and instsntly paid for it. Woodleys slip counter was better and faster than connor last night. It was really an incredible counter by mma standards.

 

[JKS]

You understand such thing as a "gameplan"? He planned to let Woodley tire himself the first two rounds and then come on strong. It just didnt happen. He probably thought Woodley would survive till the end, and that he'd win the decision by beating on him in the last 3 whilst Woodley gassed.

Yah that's what he said in the post fight interview. He felt him out in the first and would get more aggressive in the second. He came looking to impose his striking in the second, just unfortunate he came in with some stupid hand movement and got hit, what the hell was he doing with his hands? He looked like he was gonna throw and then get hit. Perfect timing by Woodley

 

[Melas Chasma]

When was he planning on starting this "war"?

Retarded question. He got countered while he was closing the distance and throwing strikes.

 

[Koro_11]

Retarded question. He got countered while he was closing the distance and throwing strikes.

He spent the first 5 minutes staring at him doing nothing, so no fuck you it’s a valid question.

 

[Melas Chasma]

He spent the first 5 minutes staring at him doing nothing, so no fuck you it’s a valid question.

So? You asked "When was he planning on starting this "war"?" Well, he clearly had started it in that very exchange at least, he was clearly attacking = Your question was retarded.

 

[egk]

It was like a war. When the US invaded Grenada.

 

[jeff7b9]

You understand such thing as a "gameplan"? He planned to let Woodley tire himself the first two rounds and then come on strong. It just didnt happen. He probably thought Woodley would survive till the end, and that he'd win the decision by beating on him in the last 3 whilst Woodley gassed.

He took two rounds off in a two round fight.

He landed NOTHING.

Even if his game plan was to come on strong late he still choked by not doing a goddamn thing in the entire fight. If he wanted to tire Woodley out there are better ways to do that then laying on your back getting punched and elbowed in the head.

Game plan or not he choked/couldn't pull the trigger/ didn't come to fight.

 

[MastercraftG]

He took two rounds off in a two round fight.

He landed NOTHING.

Even if his game plan was to come on strong late he still choked by not doing a goddamn thing in the entire fight. If he wanted to tire Woodley out there are better ways to do that then laying on your back getting punched and elbowed in the head.

Game plan or not he choked/couldn't pull the trigger/ didn't come to fight.

Couldn't be more wrong. Before the fight everyone questioned whether Till could defend takedowns from Woodley. Till took the first round to see what gameplay Tyron was going to implement. Luckily till didn't fire off shots only to have Woodley time a takedown in the first round. Because Woodley was looking for it. Till deserves credit for stuffing tyron attempts as well as holding his own in the clinch.

What till failed to catch onto was tyron backing up to the cage with all his weight on his back foot ready to throw a big right counter. Tyron successfully baited till with this...props to the mental warfare Woodley brought to this fight.

 

[The_Renaissance]

He choked, the pressure got to him and he knew he was in there with the elite. He'll be back, but I still dont (and didn't before really) see him as a title contender material, he got his title shot through circumstances more than anything.

1) They were desperate for a European to headline a shitty UFN in Poland or wherever it was, and Till answered the call. Everyone thought it weird he was headlining, it was a hastily put together 'headliner'. He fought someone who underestimated him, was a good matchup for him and had a major household name.

2) Same again, in the UK. All of the same apart from Wonderboy didn't underestimate him. He won and had just beaten the guy who last fought for the title. He's now in the title picture.

3) Covington wouldn't fight.

 

[Rav7n]

You understand such thing as a "gameplan"? He planned to let Woodley tire himself the first two rounds and then come on strong. It just didnt happen. He probably thought Woodley would survive till the end, and that he'd win the decision by beating on him in the last 3 whilst Woodley gassed.

Pretty much what I thought he'd do.
He got whacked and then beat..

All that leading up to the fight I didn't buy one bit..
Just hyping himself up to seen a badarse..

 

[bambammccoy]

People talk about the Wonderboy win as if he is a fringe top 15 fighter he had a razor close fight with.

Only other guy to be competitive with a prime Wonderboy is Woodley.

 

[MastercraftG]

Cormier racist bias commentary didn't help either. Constantly saying Till has to do something bla bla. It's the first round of a 25 minute fight dumbass.

Meanwhile Cormier praise Dodson for running and completely avoiding the fight because he's "the magician". Cormier racist confirmed. Before the scores are read "Oh...it will be a close decision between Dodson and Rivera. What fight was Cormier watching?

 

[Ekim]

Till was a hype job, period. Anybody with a functioning brain could see that Woodley possessed a superior skill set, more experience, better credentials, just straight up more professional and ready to put in work. Till was the betting favorite based on what exactly? "Buh buh buh he beat Rice a Roni! Buh buh buh he beat Wonderbread! Buh buh buh he's so much bigger than Tyron!" Y'all be trippin on some straight up clown shit sometimes furreal.

 

[jeff7b9]

Couldn't be more wrong. Before the fight everyone questioned whether Till could defend takedowns from Woodley. Till took the first round to see what gameplay Tyron was going to implement. Luckily till didn't fire off shots only to have Woodley time a takedown in the first round. Because Woodley was looking for it. Till deserves credit for stuffing tyron attempts as well as holding his own in the clinch.

What till failed to catch onto was tyron backing up to the cage with all his weight on his back foot ready to throw a big right counter. Tyron successfully baited till with this...props to the mental warfare Woodley brought to this fight.

You are delusional.

Two round fight, till landed ZERO significant strikes according to fightmetric.

He talked a big game and then froze up and choked. Did not inflict any harm whatsoever on Woodley. Not a scratch not a bruise, nothing.

What "mental warfare" are you talking about? Woodley said very little leading into this fight and fought the same way he has in his last 4 fights.

 

[Huligani]

I was entertained so I'm good

 

[MastercraftG]

You are delusional.

Two round fight, till landed ZERO significant strikes according to fightmetric.

He talked a big game and then froze up and choked. Did not inflict any harm whatsoever on Woodley. Not a scratch not a bruise, nothing.

What "mental warfare" are you talking about? Woodley said very little leading into this fight and fought the same way he has in his last 4 fights.

Till didn't freeze or choke. He was cautious. There's a difference. Tyron knew that till wanted to back him to the cage and that's when he would open up. Tyron used tills lack of experience in a big fight against him by clearly baiting him by backing straight up then unloading a perfectly timed counter when he got him to finally throw strikes.

Woodley mentally bested Till with a simple yet effective strategy. Don't blame Till for being cautious. He was clearly correct in respecting the abilities of Woodley. He just fell into a trap that was very obvious watching from the outside due to his lack of experience in a big fight.

 

[jeff7b9]

Till didn't freeze or choke. He was cautious. There's a difference. Tyron knew that till wanted to back him to the cage and that's when he would open up. Tyron used tills lack of experience in a big fight against him by clearly baiting him by backing straight up then unloading a perfectly timed counter when he got him to finally throw strikes.

Woodley mentally bested Till with a simple yet effective strategy. Don't blame Till for being cautious. He was clearly correct in respecting the abilities of Woodley. He just fell into a trap that was very obvious watching from the outside due to his lack of experience in a big fight.

You are just trying to frame what happened as something else to suit whatever your own personal narrative is.

Till got a title shot and never threw any decent strikes or combos and landed absolutely nothing... with a significant size advantage. If that isn't choking I don't know what is. Read other posts, quite a few posters agree that Till choked.

There is a difference between being respectful of an opponent's skills and not coming to fight. If you can't see that then hopefully you will learn to discern between the two over time.
There was no moment in the fight in which Till made any clear attempt to win. He didn't fall victim to strategy or game plan, Woodley fought the same way he always does. Till lost to a better fighter who was willing to let his hands go.

And Till absolutely deserves blame for being too cautious, he followed a course of action that could lead only to defeat. No one ever won a UFC title by not attempting to fight. He refused to take the risks necessary to attempt to win the fight. That is choking. Period.

 

[MastercraftG]

You are just trying to frame what happened as something else to suit whatever your own personal narrative is.

Till got a title shot and never threw any decent strikes or combos and landed absolutely nothing... with a significant size advantage. If that isn't choking I don't know what is. Read other posts, quite a few posters agree that Till choked.

There is a difference between being respectful of an opponent's skills and not coming to fight. If you can't see that then hopefully you will learn to discern between the two over time.
There was no moment in the fight in which Till made any clear attempt to win. He didn't fall victim to strategy or game plan, Woodley fought the same way he always does. Till lost to a better fighter who was willing to let his hands go.

And Till absolutely deserves blame for being too cautious, he followed a course of action that could lead only to defeat. No one ever won a UFC title by not attempting to fight. He refused to take the risks necessary to attempt to win the fight. That is choking. Period.

Fair points. Tbh i think till fighting wonderboy ruined his approach to fighting Woodley. You are right...till should've let it hang out more. Eapecially in hindsight.

I think we agree that tills lack of experience in a big fight froze him up a bit and allowed him to walk into a fairly obvious counter setup by woodley.