What fights took the most out of either one fighter, or both?

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Just curious on opinions on this. Although it usually is the years and decades of training and combined accumulation of fights that takes its toll on fighters in the long run, there's also the case in which one or both of the fighters are never the same after a particularly brutal fight.

What brutal fights do you think took the most out of a single fighter or both of the fighters after the fight? Off the top of my head, my picks would be Ali/Frazier in Manila, and Meldrick Taylor in Chavez/Taylor I.

Obviously the Billy Collins, Gerald McCellan, and other similar tragedies are at the very top of this list, but I'm talking more about fighters that continued on with their career after the fight.
 
I feel like both Tua and Ike were never the same after their war

Ike was a mental case already but that fight definitely expedited the loose screws to fall completely off

Tua from I was told lost a lot of motivation afterwards, half ass trained and gained a lot of weight.
 
Ward-Gatti.

Pick a fight. I, 2 or 3. But in particular 3 for Ward.
 
Fernando Vargas was never the same after Tito Trinidad, was a shame.

before that fight Vargas hadn’t even been dropped if I recall correctly. He was dropped in the first round then finished in the 12th.

his first fight after Tito I think he was dropped early and never seemed the same
 
Fernando Vargas was never the same after Tito Trinidad, was a shame.

before that fight Vargas hadn’t even been dropped if I recall correctly. He was dropped in the first round then finished in the 12th.

his first fight after Tito I think he was dropped early and never seemed the same

That's a really good one. Tito had shocking, otherworldly power that just changed men. If I remember correctly, it was Foreman who said that he was swinging his left hand as though it was a hammer. It probably felt like one to Vargas.
 
probably not the most in historical terms, but in recent years i felt like the first rungvisai fight took a lot out of chocolatito.
 
probably not the most in historical terms, but in recent years i felt like the first rungvisai fight took a lot out of chocolatito.
And he's still one of the best fighters in the world in my opinion

Chocolatito is fucking awesome
 
People from Ali's team stated that the third fight vs. Ken Norton took what was left in Ali.
 
depends on the fighter, i still remember when i was a young boxing fan, not understanding how matthew saad muhammad couldn't beat anyone after he lost the title. Made no sense to me at all, if you can't beat a championship level fighter, you should still be able to beat a lot of other fighters. But it's really a mental sport. I'm sure the physical attrition is a huge factor but I would believe that there are many cases of fighters who are just broken by a tough fight/loss. Here's a few to conjecture.
Frazier--Ali 1- neither man was the same again, Ali fared a little better, probably because he wasn't typically a full throttle, face first fighter, but neither were ever able to match their outputs and their intensities of the first fight.
Ali-Frazier3- Both men were thought to be on the downside and no one expected a classic, especially with ali winning the rematch and beating george foreman, Frazier was thought to be finished. What wasn't finished of frazier before was taken here, Ali was never the same either and would only go on to mostly boring fights and only scoring a couple more knockdowns in the remainder of his career.
Camacho-Rosario: I don't really know if this fight ruined camacho, I really don't but it's a popular theory and there is evidence, even with camachos own words after the fight. A lot of fighters just plain lose interest in the sport, Camacho seemed to be one to me.
Honeyghan-Curry: Curry was thought to be the number one pfp by some people at the time, that's right, even better than hagler. Curry had beaten a string of strong competitors, Starling, Milton McCrory, Colin Jones, good fighters. Honeyghan came in looking stronger, bigger, faster, more determined and not a bit intimidated by the reputation of curry, Curry quit in his corner and was never the same again.
Fighters who have killed fighters also have a mixed history of success. Sugar Ray Robinson, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Ray Mancini, one of the Ruelas bros., I think there are stories of fightes actually seeing dead opponents in the ring during a fight, max baer i think said he saw the ghost of a dead opponent. Ruelas said it too but he didn't mean it literally.
Chavez-Taylor: I still remember reading how many people heard Taylor slurring at the post fight press conference, Taylor was a case where he always had heart and courage so I don't think he was that diminished by the beating so much as he just fought stupid a lot of the time and seemed to have a masochistic streak. The shopworn Taylor in the rematch at least showed that he had no loss of courage and fire.
Clay-Liston: Foreman could also be mentioned but he did manage to stage one of the miraculous comebacks in boxing history, Liston never did. He was broken after the two Ali fights, still good enough to beat some fighters but the beating he took from Leotis Martin was frightening from what I remember, Leotis never fought again after that win because Liston injured, i think it was his eye. Liston, prodigious abilities that he had, was still able to half kill Chuck Wepner a few years later.
Marlon Starling-Mark Breland: Mark Breland was one of the all time greats as an ammie and he was a successful pro but Starling was a spoiler, Breland fought well in the rematch but still lost and then was handed another title shot, forget against who, but it sounded like one of those setup title shots, then, he fought Aaron Davis and got kayoed again and like Curry, finished his career getting kayoed by clubfighters.
 
Davey Moore after the Duran fight
Jeff Lacy after the Calzaghe fight
Lucian Bute after the Froch fight
Edit: Joe Frazier after Foreman. Either fight. I think Big George basically retired Joe
 
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David reid after tito is an obvious one. Bowe post holyfield 3 dropped off real quick.
 
Vazquez literally gave his eye for his 4 wars with Marquez. Marquez went 2-4 post their wars ( 3 stoppages) before retiring.
 
Chad Dawson after the fight with Ward, draining himself only to get beat up ruined him.
Lacy after Calzaghe gave him one hell of a beating.
Both DeGale and Badou Jack after their fight.
Groves after the fights with Froch, maybe not on the same level, but he was never the same guy that faced Froch in their first fight, probably more of a mental thing.
 
Chad Dawson after the fight with Ward, draining himself only to get beat up ruined him.
Lacy after Calzaghe gave him one hell of a beating.
Both DeGale and Badou Jack after their fight.
Groves after the fights with Froch, maybe not on the same level, but he was never the same guy that faced Froch in their first fight, probably more of a mental thing.
Good call on Jeff Lacy
 
Prince Naseem Hamed after Barrera. He pretty much retired after that fight although the damage was pretty much just psychological.
 
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