What do you think about trumps ideas?

[Cygnus A]

You really think illegal Mexicans here are all drug smugglers or dealers?

That is not what I said at all. The illegals are here trying to find a better life.

To be more specific, the drug war has turned Mexico and the central/south Americas into a war zone. It is no secret the cartels run everything. The drug war has directly contributed to the rise of these cartels and the terrible living conditions forcing people to leave.

 

[Sampsonsimpson]

I don't trust anyone with a dead cat on their head to run a country.

 

[Phlog]

This is a part of why the rest of the world views Americans as being dumb.

You get the leaders you deserve...

 

[Adamant]

It was the first debate of Trump's life against seasoned debators. He wasn't perfect, but he held his own pretty well. Especially with how hard Megyn Kelly was on him.

 

[Adamant]

That is not what I said at all. The illegals are here trying to find a better life.

To be more specific, the drug war has turned Mexico and the central/south Americas into a war zone. It is no secret the cartels run everything. The drug war has directly contributed to the rise of these cartels and the terrible living conditions forcing people to leave.

Not our problem. No different than our problems aren't theirs. There are plenty of LEGAL citizens who need help and aide, and when a huge chunk goes to illegals, that's a huge chunk that legal citizens are missing out on. That's sad and sickening.

 

[spamking]

I do think that at this point, it's hard to deny that Obama has been a great president.

Depends on what you use to gauge "great".

Folks will always overlook anything he might have done that others could see as "great" simply because he has been one of the most divisive public figures in the last 10 years. So no, it's not hard to deny his supposed "greatness".

I've worked for a Federal Agency that has the sole job of providing healthcare for over 20 years. People like to call it a dismal failure at times and I can honestly say it isn't as crazy as the ACA. In fact, IMO it is how the ACA should've been pushed for the rest of the country. I guess if you're calling the ACA "great" because of the increased numbers of covered folks then sure, it was a success. However, you have to look at those who were already covered and use that as a gauge to see if they are better off now than they were before. Many say they aren't. We need to find a happy medium with healthcare.

We've already discussed ARRA and how it partially did what it was intended to do. It wasn't a complete failure, but I'd be hard pressed to call it "great".

Then there's the folks he's hired in his cabinet who have been utter failures.


He hasn't been a complete failure, but I don't think he's been great by any means.

 

[Madmick]

why would any american listen to a non american about american politics?

It's never stopped them from blathering on about American politics over the years (usually at the expense of focusing on their own nation's problems which command ~1/100th their attention).

 

[Aegon Spengler]

It's never stopped them from blathering on about American politics over the years (usually at the expense of focusing on their own nation's problems which command ~1/100th their attention).

America is the world's great empire, it's culturally and financially dominant on a global scale.

When Rome was around, Germanic or Gaullic tribes debated the Romans, learned Roman literature, compared themselves to Rome and criticized the Roman gods.

The same is true today.

 

[Jjunk]

That is not what I said at all. The illegals are here trying to find a better life.

To be more specific, the drug war has turned Mexico and the central/south Americas into a war zone. It is no secret the cartels run everything. The drug war has directly contributed to the rise of these cartels and the terrible living conditions forcing people to leave.

Or its the fault of those nations with weak and corrupt police and govt.

 

[Cygnus A]

Not our problem. No different than our problems aren't theirs. There are plenty of LEGAL citizens who need help and aide, and when a huge chunk goes to illegals, that's a huge chunk that legal citizens are missing out on. That's sad and sickening.

It is our problem if we created it. If you want to talk about helping legal citizens, OK. Lets take the billions of dollars spent every year fighting (and failing) the drug war and put that towards helping our citizens. Good luck getting republicans on board with that amount "socialism"

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

It's never stopped them from blathering on about American politics over the years (usually at the expense of focusing on their own nation's problems which command ~1/100th their attention).

the worst is those from irrelevant semi socialist countries which only exist because of the stronger nations. Should be a mod thing which prevents them from posting on these subjects

America is the world's great empire, it's culturally and financially dominant on a global scale.

When Rome was around, Germanic or Gaullic tribes debated the Romans, learned Roman literature, compared themselves to Rome and criticized the Roman gods.

The same is true today.

True

 

[5H3RD0G]

Are you serious, is there any leader on Earth that is dominating with every nation in debt? :icon_lol:

 

[Medusas Weave]

First and foremost im not American, but i have sat back and watched Americans vote for crappy president after crappy president and the fact that Hilary Clinton could become your next president is mind boggling.

Obama tricked everyone including myself and he has been nothing but a disaster.

Ive been listening to trumps speeches and honestly im starting to think he might be a good option.

Do you agree with his ideas?

On ISIS - take out their wealth, destroy the oil fields, send in the army and exxon mobile, rebuild the oil fields, take control of them. Stop losing shipments of weapons, he mentioned the 2000 humvees specifically.

This would be considered another invasion of iraq, on the other hand isis is an enemy and national security threat to the USA, and completely exiting the situation will allow ISIS to expand and become extremely powerful.

Economy - Renegotiate trade deals to bring jobs back to America. Charge a tax for imported cars and parts to pressure car companies to manufacture in America, instead of Mexico and China. Put the best negotiators in the country in charge of these deals, not politicians.

Health care - repeal Obamacare and build a better system at the fraction of the cost. Says Obamacare is forcing doctors to retire and is a tremendous financial burden (5 billion dollar website).

Education - says Americans spend far more on education than any other country and are ranked 26th in education. Implies getting rid of common core. Says there are countries spending 1/10th the amount on education and they have better education and a better system. Claims he could fix it.

Immigration - says he can get Mexico to build an impenetrable wall to stop the flood of illegal immigrants, says Mexico will pay for it.

War - says he can fix the relationship with Russia, that he knows putin and can work with him. Will not allow iran to get a nuclear bomb, will stop them with heavy heavy sanctions.

He also says politicians are controlled by their contributers, and that he will not be controlled by anyone, friend or not. Says he doesn't need the money.

Its still early and im sure he will have a lot more to say but what are your thoughts so far? Agree or disagree with these ideas?

I like the fact that hes not politically correct and will just speak bluntly, its a nice change.

I am completely on board. Taking out common core and obamacare ---these two things alone will make him better than any other candidate.

 

[method115]

Actually he is right. You can look at the White House's own data and see that this administration has been far more aggressive on weed than the previous one.

Yes but to be fair weed has been making more and more of a push towards legalization. So it would make sense that this would be the time the government pushes back regardless who's in office.

 

[kahiljabroni]

I find his blunt approach refreshing. Nice to see someone lay out his ideas without sounding like a typical, sly politician.

That said, I find him being the head candidate of the Republican party rather disturbing. When he announced he was running, I took it like any other celebrity throwing their name in the cap. A joke and a publicity stunt. The fact that he actually has a shot, is kind of scary and might speak to how fucking stupid our society is becomming.

I still don't understand why his candidacy is a joke? Is it more of a joke than a junior senator/community organizer going from obscurity to leader of the free world?


If you're going to tell me he's a joke, do it in relation to the career politicians hes up against. Im not sure how much experience you've had with bureaucrats but in mine, they are not effective, efficient, or good leaders. Trump has spent his life in a world where performance is the only thing that matters...not votes. I would take a leader in any industry over a life long politician. Its like comparing a lion in the wild to one that was born in captivity, and has had its meals delivered to it daily.

 

[phipps66]

The fact that Trump has so much support shows how weak the GOP field is.

He's like a reality show version of Chris Christie without the actual political experience. I'm a registered republican but the party is in total disarray.

 

[Uchi Mata]

I still don't understand why his candidacy is a joke? Is it more of a joke than a junior senator/community organizer going from obscurity to leader of the free world?


If you're going to tell me he's a joke, do it in relation to the career politicians hes up against. Im not sure how much experience you've had with bureaucrats but in mine, they are not effective, efficient, or good leaders. Trump has spent his life in a world where performance is the only thing that matters...not votes. I would take a leader in any industry over a life long politician. Its like comparing a lion in the wild to one that was born in captivity, and has had its meals delivered to it daily.

The difference is that the government is not a business. It's not. And the main way in which it is similar, i.e. it's a large organization that needs to be run as efficiently as possible, is what Trump is terrible at. He's a deal maker, and historically a pretty good one, but I'm not sure what his ability to make big real estate deals has to do with being a good president.

The other thing is, as a businessman Trump has left a lot of broken companies and shattered lives in his wake. It's fine for him to take a risk on a project, have it go bankrupt, and then he goes on to something else, but that's not really what you look for in someone running a nation. The US can't be abandoned as a bad bet by its president, and Trump's done a lot of that in his career.

Though you are right that his candidacy is not a joke, and everyone at this point should stop pretending that it is.

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

I think Trump says a lot of things out loud that many people think, but won't say in today's pc world.

I also think he is a fucking idiot.

 

[2GunTommy]

Conservatives: what exactly do you think Hillary is going to do that is so bad? I'm not asking why you hate her, or about how dishonest she is, or any of that. In terms of policy, what do you think she'll do that will harm American so much?

Expand amnesty. If that was the only reason to despise her, it would be enough. Add that to The friggin corrupt as hell foundation where she has basically sold political influence, Saudi ties,Benghazi lies. Shes about as politically corrupt as they come. And Im not conservative either. I feel the same way about Bush. No more establishment politics. I want someone who goes against the status quo and isnt controlled by banking,oil, big business. If that person exists.

 

[Bat Dad]

donald trump is literally giving hillary votes with his antics. maybe thats his plan all along and was aluded to when he was posed the question to backing down if he wasnt chosen at the rnc