What can Rumble offer to Gus that Manuwa didn't?

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  1. DeusExMachida

    DeusExMachida Blue Belt

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    I'm surprised by the amount of people picking Rumble over Gus. Rumble has had a great streak at 205, but stylistically he seems to be a poor matchup for Gus. He's a great power puncher, strong and dangerous inside, but the same could be said of Manuwa whom Gus beat fairly easily. I don't think Johnson even has the advantage in the grappling department. Anyone care to enlighten me?
     
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    Uhh he's a way more dangerous fighter than Manuwa? He beat Phil Davis pillar to post and brutalized Lil Nog. Hell he even beat Andrei Arlovski not long ago. Are you serious with this one?
     
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    A substantial power punch advantage over Manuwa.
     
  5. the ax murderer

    the ax murderer Looking At The Stars.

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    Well he's better everywhere, for one.
     
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    A_bomb47 Wha happan to you Sherdog?

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    Proven against better competition?
    A much better wrestler?
     
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    He's a different fighter with different skills and combos. Duh
     
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    Nothing at all.
     
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    He's faced and beat much higher competition than Manuwa has. Im picking Gus, but he is gonna be in 1 hell of a fight.
     
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    Rumble has fought and "beaten" a greater assortment of "talented" fighters in his career.
     
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    PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Being a much better fighter.
     
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    Is this like a racial thing?
     
  13. Got GOAT

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    What's clear is those people saying AJ has substantially more power than Jimi Manuwa have not seen Jimi's fights besides the Gus fight.
     
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    saugeye killah No need rope hold up pants.

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    Pretty sure Manuwa could handle KOS.
     
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    Pretty sure he will watch that fight and try not to make any of the mistakes jimi made. Please he had crazy power, that's something he always brings to the table that will be a problem for any fithter.
     
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    Im glad I wasnt the first to come in and say being a better fighter.
     
  17. Rylinkus

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    Exactly. Manuwa was undefeated in 14 fights prior to fighting Gus. With 13 of those wins coming by way of TKO/KO. He literally looks like he's trying to kill his opponents at times. I have no idea if he actually hits as hard as Rumble or not, but he's clearly a powerful striker in his own right.
     
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    Because so many people have starched Lil Nog like that


    Manuwa has never stopped a fight in the UFC from pure strikes, he has no TKO/KO by strikes victories in the UFC, or over any fighter of note. He beat a bunch of people nobody has ever heard of in England, and had only win stopped during a round in the UFC, against Jimmo who injured his leg. IIRC, both Cyrille and Kingsbury (? wasnt it Kingsbury he fought first?) were stopped at the end of the round.


    Johnson almost murdered a legit LHW legend and embarrassed a top 5 opponent in Phil Davis. Manuwa beat Jimmo, Cyrille, and Kingsbury. I have literally never heard of any of his other opponents.

    So yeah, Manuwa has a ton of TKO/KO wins, but is knocking out nobodies the same as knocking out ranked fighters?
     
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    No one is saying (well, no one with any insight) that Manuwa is not a legit power striker who can knock people out. Only that AJ is more polished, has more experience, and has KO'd fighters of higher regard.

    Manuwa has had four UFC fights, 3-1. TKO'd by Gus, TKO'd Jimmo by leg injury, and Diabete and Kingsbury had their fights ended after rounds.

    In his last two fights, Rumble has almost killed a Nogueira and made Phil Davis look like a pussy, a guy who beat Gus.

    That's why AJ is held in higher regard, as a striker and a fighter overall. AJ has a wrestling threat, and nasty GnP, Manuawa comes off as pure striking.
     

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