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What are the UFC fights in the past 4 years that count as a loss for the Dec winner?

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  1. emax Black Belt

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    By this I mean, out of the UFC fights that have happened in the past 4 years and ended in a decision, which ones do you count as a definite, no questions asked loss for the fighter who was awarded a UD or split D victory? I mean, we know there's tons of fights one may think could have been scored either way but what are all the fights that ended in a decision where you wouldsay fighter A may have gotten the decision against fighter B but it is a definite loss and I count it as a loss on his record and a definite win on fighter B's record?
     
  2. emax Black Belt

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    I am not sure which ones count for me other than of course a few of Sanchez's most egregious wins and also Benson Frankie 2. Other than that I am actually not sure.
     
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    Boetsch vs Dollaway.
     
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    I've heard this was exceptionally bad call by the judges
     
  5. skysolo Gold Belt

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    For the love of God, NONE!
    If I go to fight finder it will say win or loss not want you wish it to be.

    I know what you are saying and I reject your premise.
     
  6. emax Black Belt

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    I don't think there are that many fights where it does not count. But the MMA fans can often list, especially in the last 4 years, plenty of fights where they think a guy who was awarded the decision should have that fight count as a definite loss.
     
  7. INTERL0PER Brown Belt

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    The term robbery is thrown around way too casually on here. Usually a "controversial" decision is just a very close fight, with an argument for either side, which is not a robbery.

    The only fights that I thought were scored categorically wrong, off the top of my head, are:

    Sanchez v Kampmann
    Sanchez v Pearson
    Boetsch v Dollaway
    Larkin v Carmont
    Bermudez v Holloway - this one's interesting because it was a very close fight, but I've rewatched it a few times and IMO Holloway definitely won a very close fight.
     
  8. Minnja Touch-Butt white belt Platinum Member

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    KZ v. Garcia
    Phan v. Garcia
     
  9. emax Black Belt

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    Well in addition to the fights you listed, here's a partial list of fights that around here have been called fights that do not count as wins:

    Davis Machida
    Nurmagomedov Tibau
    Jones Gus
    Lawler Hendricks 2
    GSP Hendricks
    Benson Edgar 1 and 2
    Benson Thomson
    Nordine Taleb Li Jingliang
    Sanchez Gomi
    Boetsch Lombard
    Okami Lombard

    and probably more
     
  10. MattyPeq Brown Belt

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    This.
    I thought it was a joke. And Dollaway wasn't even mad.
    You gotta love CB.
     
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    The 'Dirty' Sanchez trilogy
    (Disclaimer: Not fighter bashing! I'm not calling Diego dirty, calling the judging dirty!)

    Garcia robbing Phan and Jung

    Boetsch'd vs Dollaway
     
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    Davis Machida
    Rampage Machida
    Sanchez Pearson- the biggest robbery ever
     
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    Khabib Nurmagomedov vs Gleison Tibau
     
  14. The Accuser Brown Belt

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    Sanchez vs Pearson was the worst in recent times.
     
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    Tim b vs hector Lombard

    More takedowns. More stuffed takedowns. Did not land but maybe one shot on hector. Took more damage. Lombard got knocked for being flatfooted and as soon as I heard the scores starting I knew her get screwed.
     
  16. The Accuser Brown Belt

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    Most of these have been close and maybe controversial fights but no robberies at all, esp all the fights from Davis vs Machida thru Benson vs Thomson.
     
  17. INTERL0PER Brown Belt

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    Most of those fights are very close, controversial maybe, but not flat out robberies.

    The three bolded fights particularly cannot be called robberies. It is perfectly reasonable to score those fights as they were, IMO.
     
  18. verbatim Lover of scotch and beautiful women

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    Wholeheartedly agree
     
  19. Thuckey I swear to drunk.. I'm not God. Platinum Member

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    There are some decision wins that are brutal, one side beat downs where there is no question who the winner is. Shame that it never came to a finish, though.

    Then there are the rest. Tough to call close fights that are infested with controversy..

    Hopefully one day they will figure out a clear-cut way to determine the champion without all the subjective horseshit
     

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