What are Cain's possible weaknesses that can be exploited

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  1. fightdonttweet

    fightdonttweet Banned Banned

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    I'm already seeing posts about a dominant champ with no weaknesses. Incidentally these were things people were saying about JDS just a few days ago. What are things some future contenders should try to exploit?

    One thing I'm wondering about is Cain's TDD. Brock seemed to get him down relatively easily, though he scrambled back up when Brock tried to improve positioning. And JDS reversed him on one of his early takedown attempts. How good is he off his back and should an opponent try to smother him and do some damage?
     
  2. Minnja

    Minnja Touch-Butt white belt Platinum Member

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    I think JDS should have tested Cain's guard/scrambling ability. When Cain's first couple takedowns were stuffed, JDS just let him get up instead of trying to force Cain to go into guard. That said, I think Cain is probably very good at scrambling from that position, but that is something that other fighters should look to test when fighting him
     
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    Tigerknee Red Belt

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    Jds needs to watch the Brock fight, he had success rushing Cain, put the pressure on him instead of being defensive
     
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    On the ground with a submission specialist such as Werdum or Mir is something we haven't seen as far as Velasquez's concern.
     
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    AP_RESURRECTION Gold Belt

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    striking defense, predictable head movement - not much
     
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    AP_RESURRECTION Gold Belt

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    as many smart people have said, thats a meme that needs to disapper now - cain has a great chin though everyone can go down, esp in the HW division
     
  8. AP_RESURRECTION

    AP_RESURRECTION Gold Belt

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    there we go, i dont think thats entirely accurate, but its close - he cant be aggressive bc he doesnt have the wrestling chops / gas to constantly do that - but he needed to step back and throw crisp combos with good footwork instead of running backwards away from cain - circle, esp off the cage, throw hard 3 - 4 punch combos and look to hit cain, its a HW fight and its junior, thats his chance for victory - things like subs or tdd are possible, but junior wins by hitting people with force and not stepping backwards - this is the same thing we learneda bout cro cop

    cain's head movement and jds's striking / combos with planted feet / footwork are key to me

    round 1, be ready to move forward and throw strikes if you're junior - if you find yourself on your back, dont try to fight to get up immediately every time, that tires you the fck out - take a break, look for sweeps, basically keep your gas and set up combos on the feet, thats where he will win by domination
     
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    Cain doesn't do to well when he gets hit in the head. The goal for any Cain fight should be to hit him in the head.
     
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    His chin? Maybe a uberknee
     
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    UFCfightman** Purple Belt

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    I'm not saying he has a weak chin, but he's well rounded enough that may be the place to hurt him if there was any

    That and his soft middle

    if I were to fight him I attack him with bodyshots and once I get him start looking for it go for the KO
     
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    His sub defense is still a question mark.

    He's very exposed during and after his telegraphed TDAs(though usually he sets up his TDAs).
     
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    Cain can get outstriked from the outside like what happened in the first JDS fight. His chin is good but it is not iron.

    I also think, Cain is a bit reckless on the ground. He shoots single legs from too far and does not care too much about positioning during GnP. A BJJ specialist can exploit that.
     
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    AP_RESURRECTION Gold Belt

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    bolded part, totally agree - we have to find *****s in an armor that really arent there, so gotta improvise

    like i said, i agree that his head defense is weak, but i cant say i agree w the body shots - makes sense, but cain will just grab you, you want to stay on the outside if you're junior - body shots can be effective but leads to immediate clinch / fatigue

    you might want to wear your opponent out w that stragegy, but against cain, id say thats not a good one - the big shot to the head with combos is where i see the victory

    cain is the one with some sick body shots in that fight, that i remember (seeing the fight three times)

    edit: LOL cant say the word ch!nks bc its racist i guess - perfect example of anti racism gone wrong
     
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    that glass jaw of his
     
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    Alexandergreat3 In Fedor We Trust, amen™

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    This is a REALLY good point that rarely anyone talks about.

    Regarding Cain's TDD, it seems that it isn't as good as his TD offense, but Cain's opponents are busy worrying about defending Cain's TD attempts and don't think about taking him down.

    Here is NCAA Division1 Kongo taking Cain down:

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  17. 5H3RD0G

    5H3RD0G Silver Belt

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    These are the keys
    They implement a 12 round system so he can tire out
    Ring so he can't dirty box on the cage
    Demetrious Johnson can't take down what you can't see
     
  18. PUO3

    PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    striking defense

    striking

    chin (its not bad but hes been hurt several times standing)

    takedown defense

    submission defense (never seen it threatened, so who knows)
     
  19. Sweating Bullet

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    Cain reversed in a matter of seconds tho. The real trick will be hold him and wear him down.

    Hit Cain in the temple and then rush him like JDS did. Also I think Uberknees might work.
     
  20. fight4ippon

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    I noticed this and my jaw dropped when JDS didn't get the top position or gnp.
     

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