~ Western Art ~

[Iroh]

Some of my favorite female artists.

Rosa Bonheu

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Maria Sibylla Merian

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Maria Konstantinovna Bashkirtseva

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Isabel Bishop

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[Iroh]

Sofonisba Anguissola

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Rosalba Carriera

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Adelaide Labille-Guiard

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Elisabeth Vigée-Lebrun

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[Iroh]

Marie Spartali Stillman

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[InternetHero]

Newton (1805) [William Blake]

Interesting story behind this one, @InternetHero. Francis Bacon, Isaac Newton and John Locke may very well all be among my ten favorite persons of all-time and I regard the Enlightenment as the greatest intellectual movement in human history, after the Scientific Revolution. Of course, I would.

Isaac Newton is shown sitting naked and crouched on a rocky outcropping covered with algae, apparently at the bottom of the sea. His attention is focused upon diagrams he draws with a compass upon a scroll. Blake's opposition to the Enlightenment was deeply rooted. In his annotation to his own engraving of the classical character Laocoön, Blake wrote "Art is the Tree of Life. Science is the Tree of Death."

The deistic view of God as a distant creator who played no role in daily affairs was anathema to Blake, who claimed to regularly experience visions of a spiritual nature. He contrasts his "four-fold vision" to the "single vision" of Newton, whose "natural religion" of scientific materialism he characterized as sterile. Newton was incorporated into Blake's infernal trinity along with the philosophers Francis Bacon and John Locke.

Ironic.

*saved*

 

[InternetHero]

I have dramatically changed my opinion on this over the last decade, however...

If art is experience, is it better to have all of the experiences, or avoid some of them?

Will certain forms, or extreme versions of art, music, and human expression damage the psyche, or even open the door for darker things, which I will express in this line from Yvor Winters:

On such a night, when air has loosed
Its guardian grasp on blood and brain,
Old terrors then of god or ghost
Creep from their caves to life again.
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Has some modern and postmodern art opened the door to trauma from unveiled lawlessness, nihilism, and neo-pagan dread of inescapable fatalism?

Consider, George Orwell pointed out how dehumanizing it was for an artist of his time to film a woman defecating.

Now a considerable amount of artists would find that mundane, and anyone can view that activity with a few clicks of a sterile computer mouse.

We do not like to talk about that in a society that worships ourselves, that worships absolute_freedom, but is corruption of thought a real problem? I think so, dangerously, unavoidably so.

The temple raided, the relics taken, and the spiritual crypt empty that the bodies buried there may rise to eat us from the inside.

 

[Gomi1977]

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Nah. Ask @Gomi1977.

Are you tring to get me banned buddy?

 

[ShinkanPo]

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Nah. Ask @Gomi1977.

A museum in Spain had an exhibition a couple years ago.

Museo Del Prado: The Others Gaze. Spaces of Difference.

The Museo del Prado is presenting a new focus on its permanent collection through a specially devised thematic itinerary of works that encourages a reflection on the historical reality of same-sex relationships and non-normative sexual identities.

The richness and diversity of the Prado’s collections allow for this new approach, which makes use of art historical theory to analyze the most profound meaning of this selection of 30 works. The itinerary is structured into six different thematic routes based around various core displays.

Among them are iconic images such as "Orestes and Pylades" by the School of Praxiteles and "David with the Head of Goliath" by Caravaggio as well as little known works such as "El Cid" by Rosa Bonheur and "El Maricón de la Tía Gila" by Goya.

I've never really considered Caravaggio's David and Goliath paintings to have any explicitly homoerotic vibes. He's got others where it's quite overt though, almost uncomfortably so. The Altes Museum in Berlin has the best Antinous sculptures IMO.

The Head of Goliath.

Now imagine David giving Goliath a head...

 

[ShinkanPo]

I have dramatically changed my opinion on this over the last decade, however...

If art is experience, is it better to have all of the experiences, or avoid some of them?

Will certain forms, or extreme versions of art, music, and human expression damage the psyche, or even open the door for darker things, which I will express in this line from Yvor Winters:

On such a night, when air has loosed
Its guardian grasp on blood and brain,
Old terrors then of god or ghost
Creep from their caves to life again.
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Has some modern and postmodern art opened the door to trauma from unveiled lawlessness, nihilism, and neo-pagan dread of inescapable fatalism?

Consider, George Orwell pointed out how dehumanizing it was for an artist of his time to film a woman defecating.

Now a considerable amount of artists would find that mundane, and anyone can view that activity with a few clicks of a sterile computer mouse.

We do not like to talk about that in a society that worships ourselves, that worships absolute_freedom, but is corruption of thought a real problem? I think so, dangerously, unavoidably so.

The temple raided, the relics taken, and the spiritual crypt empty that the bodies buried there may rise to eat us from the inside.

I think we should experience all art but with a self restraint and caution.

Sorry if what I am saying does not make sense Inggris is not my first language.

For me Art is an extension of once spirituality weather we are the one making the art we are the patrons.

Have you heard about meditative painting? I know a girl who have been doing that and its her way to cope with illness and other bad stuff that happened to her.


But some times the arts can be really dark but such is life.

 

[IGotAHugePeckah]

I like how those old school guys in Da Vinci's day were well versed in different styles like painting, sculpture, architecture, ect

 

[dissectingaorticaneurysm]

I like how those old school guys in Da Vinci's day were well versed in different styles like painting, sculpture, architecture, ect

there are artists today who excel in different mediums. KAWS will definitely go down as an influential figure of this current era.

started off here

 

[IGotAHugePeckah]

there are artists today who excel in different mediums. KAWS will definitely go down as an influential figure of this current era.

started off here

Wow! Cool stuff indeed

 

[loyalyolayal]

there are artists today who excel in different mediums. KAWS will definitely go down as an influential figure of this current era.

started off here

Trying to google some of his other works? Are all of them just pop art?

 

[loyalyolayal]

Wow! Cool stuff indeed

Lots of artist are jumping on to the cool stuff without any solid fundamentals as long as they corner the vapid audience market.

 

[IGotAHugePeckah]

I really dig Beksinski. Really nightmarish stuff!

 

[Iroh]

A different kind of art not posted yet.

Thomas Carli Jarlier

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Luka Lajoie

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Dimitry Samohin

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[Rimbaud82]

Van Gogh - Wheatfield With Cypresses

(have Starry Night Over The Rhone and one of the Sunflowers on my wall)

Henri Matisse - The Joy of Life

André Derain The Turning Road, L'Estaque

 

[Iroh]

Ben "DB" Kaye

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Couldn't embed this pic or downsize it, so I'll just post the link. https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...77758d461e25548ad1/1521931425257/IMG_1014.JPG

Ryan Ashley

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Silvano Fiato

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[Iroh]

I kind of got the motivation for this from the MBS Da Vinci thread. Included are five of the most revered historical figures along with examples of their work (only allowed a max of 20 images!). Vermeer, Monet and Renoir created some spectacular stuff as well. Obviously, there's a history of heavy Christianity-laced themes.

Do you have a fave movement, or artist?

Discuss... Err, enjoy?

Da Vinci (1452-1519)

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Vitruvian Man (1490)

Mona Lisa (1506)

Michelangelo (1475-1564)

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David (1504)

Moses (1515)

Creation & Judgment (1512/1541)

Last Judgment [Closer] (1541)

Raphael (1483-1520)

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School of Athens (1510)

Sistine Madonna (1513)

Transfiguration (1520)

Caravaggio (1571-1610)

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Boy With Fruit Basket (1593)

Judith Beheading Holofernes (1599)

David and Goliath (1599)

Calling of Saint Matthew (1600)

Incredulity of Saint Thomas (1602)

Beheading of Saint John (1608)

Rembrandt (1606-1669)

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Raising of Lazarus (1632)

Abduction of Europa (1632)

Storm on the Sea of Galilee (1633)

Night Watch (1642)

BTW, I'm not sure how I should feel about the Ancient section being part of "western" art history. Sure it has influenced western art, but a lot of it isn't really western. Eastern art, like Japanese art, also has influenced some western art, but I wouldn't call it western art just for it being influential in it.

 

[GeorgeO]

I really dig Beksinski. Really nightmarish stuff!

Nightmarish indeed. Reminds me of Giger.

 

[dildos]

i like these great artworks.