Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Gregoire1, Aug 23, 2015.
In which fight Werdum had better chances: vs DC or vs Jones? And who would likely won each fight?
i think werdum beats both.
dc would be an easier fight for him.
Danile Cormier, because i fully believe Jon Jones is just on another level against anyone.
i don't think you can say that with a straight face when somebody not to long ago put jones in the hospital with machines monitoring his vitals.
Jones owned DC fighting DC's fight.
MMAth doesn't always work but in this case it absolutely does. A properly trained Jones is a solid B-/C+-level athlete in his prime. DC is a C/C- level athlete way past his prime. Jones is a better than DC everywhere.
He still won that fight however. Albeit a very close decision.
Id still pick him over every fighter on the planet.
Werdum beats DC. I think Jones beats Werdum but I'm very unsure about it, I'd love to see it.
Werdum beats both. Cormier would be harder though.
I think both guys could handily beat Werdum. Werdum's guard has become over hyped to mythical proportions.
Put it like this. Mark Hunt was in his guard with plenty of time for Werdum to pull off a sub, and on numerous occasions. I think DC and Jones could nullify his guard, and just pound him out for a decision. I give Jones the better chance, bit I still think DC would handily beat Werdum as well.
I think DC beats werdum, but they gifted him the lhw belt so no reason to move up unless jones comes back
werdum beats em both. dc would get outstruck or submitted again by werdum. jj would last for awhile but would get submitted once he goes for a td. werdum is the last mohican aka brazil's best and he knows it. his bjj and ground game is wizard like meaning in chess terms, his rating would be at least 2700. anyone who plays chess knows what i mean.werdum's gg is TOP NOTCH in all areas. defensive wise on the ground, he was in CAIN'S SIDE CONTROL and got to full guard within a matter of seconds. it took him him 3x to submit cain who is imo at least TOP 2 wrestlers to ever compete in mma for the hw division. dc is the other guy in the top 2 best wrestlers ever. werdum takes fighting to a different lvl. he's slick and SKILLED.
Werdum > both
He beat a ring rusty, and clearly not conditioned enough version of Cain. Pre injury Cain whoops his ass 8/10x.
DC and Jones would handily beat him. He's starting to get overrated now.
ringrust cain my ass. cain got busted up and saw his own blood fall which imo deteriorated his confidence. cain's camp even stated that cain was more than ready before fighting werdum. how would jj beat werdum ?? he'd get fucked up in the standup and destroyed on the ground. dc would be eating knees and STRAIGHT punches from werdum all day.
u want to account bet on werdum vs cain 2????????? i got werdum
Pure ring rust, and definitely not the same conditioned Cain we all know.
And DC is far more elusive, and quicker than Cain in movment, striking, and grappling. If a lean, mean, and incredibly explosive and powerful Rumble couldn't hurt him, Werdum ain't doing nothing to him. Remember, lighter guys are incredibly more explosive and much faster than the HW's DC would have to deal with. DC's speed and power would carry up, and I think he'd tool Werdum.
And Jones would just take him down, and give him the hellbow treatment. Also, Jon's still longer than Werdum. His kicking game is beyond Werdum's leg kick, occasion Al spinning capoerira kick, and his knees. He's still a lumbering HW that DC and Jones would both out quick, grapple, and school.
That's the thing. Fights aren't in a vaccuum. Just because Cain's gonna fight him again, doesn't mean he magically starts fr scratch, and didn't just get in a war he'd usually win if it weren't for his injuries.
If Cain never got injured, he wouldn't be rusty, and he wouldn't have that bad of a gas tank as he showed in the Werudm fight, and he wouldn't have taken all the damage he did. He did, so now we might not see the same Cain again.
I'm not account betting, because I think he needs a tune up fight against a top 10 guy, then use another training camp to really get back.
account bet on werdum beating both guys meaning you lose IF he beats em both but if werdum loses to just one of them, i lose. so watsup??
I think Werdum beats DC but not Jones.
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