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He already beat him once... Out of two fights lol
I think in a rematch Werdum takes it. He's got more confidence in his striking now than ever. Just no more butt scoots. :icon_lol:
He already beat him once... Out of two fights lol
Big Nog beat Werdum convincingly in his prime. Just saying.
Prime Fedor would've cut through Werdum like a knife through butter.
One fighter has more submissions than another, therefore he must be a better better submission fighter regardless of anything else. That was your premise. Are you now changing it?
What does Fedor's GOAT status have to do with your flawed argument?
Big Nog beat Werdum convincingly in his prime. Just saying.
Prime Fedor would've cut through Werdum like a knife through butter.
If makes me feel like I am arguing with a child that has Down's syndrome.You are the one bringing up Travis Fulton, that is what is flawed. I'm telling you that just stating Werdum is the greatest submission artist in MMA history is not enough to convince me. Fedor is quite possibly the greatest fighter of all time and in fact has way more submissions than Werdum. How does that make you feel?
Post prime Fedor got careless looking for the finish. If they had a grappling match I would give advantage to Fedor by being quicker. Armbar boom.
Werdum is top 10 of all time for sure though.
Big Nog beat Werdum convincingly in his prime. Just saying.
Prime Fedor would've cut through Werdum like a knife through butter.
There was nothing "convincing" about that win. I'm not saying it was a robbery because I don't subscribe to the idea that every close fight is a robbery, but that decision could've gone either way. Werdum has improved a lot since then, too.
As for "prime Fedor" vs. Werdum, Fedor's loss to Werdum had nothing to do with his being past his prime unless you think his brain has deteriorated with time. Fedor knocked Werdum to the ground and jumped recklessly into his guard, which is something he's always done. He did it in his fights with Nog and got away with it. He did it in his fight with Werdum and paid for it by getting tapped out. His loss wasn't the result of being slow, his chin breaking or anything like that. He made a mental error and he paid the price. Would've happened if he were 25, 35 or 75.
Werdum is way better than he was at the time, I don't doubt that, but JDS is also a better fighter than when he fought Werdum.
Werdum's striking has improved but it's not on JDS's level, JDS wouldn't likely stop him in the first like before but I still think he'd knock him out.
Haha! Awesome pic.
You can't actually punch anyone either. All you can do is move your fist close to their body, you never actually touch them but the strong atomic forces repel one another, in effect when you punch someone they feel their flesh pushing against itself, not your fist.
When are we going to get this right and stop being so loose with our terminology?
Only 2 and a half years passed since Cain's first fight with JDS. Not 4 years, and certainly not 5 years.
Furthermore, is beating a #2 HW twice worse than beating a #2 HW and a #10 HW?
Speaking of which, you can't "submit" anyone, but they can submit to you.
When are we going to figure this one out.
If he finishes Velazquez, top-10 HW all time for sure, I would place him #7 or #8.