Weighting and doing many reps

[MC Paul Barman]

I recently started to lift weights again.

I decided I would just focus on doing 3 sets of whatever it might be and focus on more reps.
Like if I'm curling, a weight that I can do 25 times for the 1st set, then 20 for the 2nd and finally 15.

But, the dick that usually manages the gym during the time of night I'm there is very vocal in his disagreeing with my lifting. Saying that, "it makes no sense to do that many reps." I tell him, I'm not going for bulk I just want to get lean. He has none of it. I just ignore the guy and almost every day when I leave he's got a comment about how useless my routine is. Again, his only gripe is with my excessive repetitions.

Does he have a point? It's hard listening to some guy that goes out of their way to find and criticize you.... but do ya'll folk agree with him?

Thanks for any pointers.

 

[Cap'n]

He's right. Your routine is useless.

Because it seems like all you do is curl... a lot.

 

[Standard]

He's right, your routine sounds like a waste of time.

- You won't magically gain bulk with low reps (that's all diet)
- You won't get "lean" with high reps (again diet)

Try giving the FAQ a read and take a routine out of there, you'll get better results provided your diet is good. Lifting heavy weights will burn alot more calories then easy light weights done for high reps.

 

[Mr Gorgeous]

The 'dick' manager has a point.

 

[MC Paul Barman]

He's right. Your routine is useless.

Because it seems like all you do is curl... a lot.

That was just an example:

Like if Ii'm curling

Just using it as a reference. Opposed to saying for each and every work out I do (25,20,15)...
But, if he's got a point then he has a point.
I'll check those FAQs.

 

[MC Paul Barman]

He's right, your routine sounds like a waste of time.

- You won't magically gain bulk with low reps (that's all diet)
- You won't get "lean" with high reps (again diet)

Try giving the FAQ a read and take a routine out of there, you'll get better results provided your diet is good. Lifting heavy weights will burn alot more calories then easy light weights done for high reps.

Standard,
Taking everything you said... If I'm using a weight that I struggle with toward the end of the rep series, so that I'm not just doing a weight that I could have done more reps with... and actually going to muscle exhaustion. Would that change anything?
Or is that still too many reps?

 

[Mr Gorgeous]

Standard,
Taking everything you said... If I'm using a weight that I struggle with toward the end of the rep series, so that I'm not just doing a weight that I could have done more reps with... and actually going to muscle exhaustion. Would that change anything?
Or is that still too many reps?

Have you read the FAQs yet?

 

[PowerHungry]

Still too many. Using that logic if you did 5lb for 100 reps, it's OK because it's working toward "muscle exhaustion." If you want to get stronger, lift heavy weight. If you want to get bigger, lift heavy weight. If you want to get leaner, clean up your diet, incorporate conditioning, and lift heavy weight.

 

[Richmond_Hrvat]

@MCPB: Check the FAQ and consider the "F" in that acronym. All of your questions are answered in it. The point of these guys is that what you consider "lean" is most likely noticeable presence of muscle with minimal fat surrounding it. The best, or fastest, way to get that is not to flap your arms with a 5lb pink dumbbell attached until your arms fall off. Your body will adapt to flap longer.

Strength training with 1-6 reps and high load, plus assistance work, is what comprises most of the routines here. The result is dense, not excessively large muscle tissue, and the burning of many calories. Quality muscle = strength training. Low fat = cardio and diet. Try it.

 

[MC Paul Barman]

Reading the FAQs right now.
Thanks again for the direction.

 

[ThinkGreen]

What the hell is "weighting?" Is it like weightlifting, without the lift?

 

[Standard]

Standard,
Taking everything you said... If I'm using a weight that I struggle with toward the end of the rep series, so that I'm not just doing a weight that I could have done more reps with... and actually going to muscle exhaustion. Would that change anything?
Or is that still too many reps?

Still too many reps.

Doing a high rep routine is fine, there is a time and a place for it and that place usually is someone who needs to build endurance in a muscle group like a boxer doing punch out drills on a heavy bag.

Lower reps with higher reps when used on compound movements create a massive caloric expense both during the workout and after which will get you closer to your goal

 

[MC Paul Barman]

What the hell is "weighting?" Is it like weightlifting, without the lift?

Yeah,
It's alot like that, you prick.
I should be treated like royalty. I'm the 357th member to join this place, and what do I get?

:icon_sad:

 

[MC Paul Barman]

Still too many reps.

Doing a high rep routine is fine, there is a time and a place for it and that place usually is someone who needs to build endurance in a muscle group like a boxer doing punch out drills on a heavy bag.

Lower reps with higher reps when used on compound movements create a massive caloric expense both during the workout and after which will get you closer to your goal

Again,
great points.
Thanks Standard.

This is going to suck. I'll be back there and that freak is going to be grinning when he sees my routine all changed up.
Maybe I'll slash his tires or something to even the playing field again. who knows.

 

[PowerHungry]

This is tame. Hardly the hazing that some have gotten.

 

[MC Paul Barman]

This is tame. Hardly the hazing that some have gotten.

I guess.

Hey, can I interest any of you in coming over to the boxing forum and talking about fantasy match ups?

 

[Standard]

This is tame. Hardly the hazing that some have gotten.

So we have to call someone a retard to get our points across? why don't you just fucking kill yourself douchebag

 

[kernel]

Reading the FAQs right now.
Thanks again for the direction.

i used to have the same mindset as you, however once i gave the lifts i read about here a try i quickly learned the error of my ways.. regardless of whether that guy is a dick he's right.. dude do the bill starr 5x5 and see what happens to you, eat high protein and either tons of food to grow or hover around 2000 calories to lean out... if you're worried about cosmetic issues go to a bodybuilding forum (not being a dick, it's just you won't get much of that advice here.)

 

[Cap'n]

I guess.

Hey, can I interest any of you in coming over to the boxing forum and talking about fantasy match ups?

Like Tyson vs Jesus?

 

[hunto]

So we have to call someone a retard to get our points across? why don't you just fucking kill yourself douchebag

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