Weight Bench For Sale--help with ID

Keith Wassung

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I found this bench for sale on Craigs list. Its exactly what I am looking for and the guy wants next to nothing for it. Can anyone id the manufacturer? It looks like it inclines, but I cannot see any gear on the bottom that would suppport that thought--just the seperation of the padded area.

I know I have seen that design before but just cant place it.
 
Looks perfectly horizontal to me.
 
All the adjustable benches I've seen have some sort of angled brace attached to the legs. I'd say that one just stays horizontal.

I got no clue on the manufacturer.
 
Keith, can't you just send them a message and ask?
 
Keith, can't you just send them a message and ask?

This.

Also we have a one very similar looking benches at my school which do incline.

edit: wow that was some bad english
 
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The pads are separate, but the metal underneath them looks to be one piece, therefore no incline.
 
Why when I click on the link does it take me to a page that says that I don't have sufficient priviledges to access it. This has happened to me several times before.
 
I did e-mail him and ask and it does incline. I am going to go look at it this weekend. I think it must have a bar/rod that extends down and that becomes the incline brace. It looks like the naughhyde is torn up, but duct tape on any bench automatically adds like 15lbs to your best PR. I am an old equipment junkie and love talking about it....no it was easier to just ask the guy. He does not know the manufacturer--and that is a good thing, because just about anything made pre-1980's did not have the manufacturers logo splattered all over it. Usually the equipment was made by some local/semi-regional place and having their "brand" on it was no big deal...and of course the earlier it was made, the better ( for the most part) the design looks very familiar to me and I just cannot place it.

If I lived in Las Vegas, I would like to be the guy that Rick from Pawn Stars calls in as his "buddy expert" if someone came into the shop and tried to sell some old lifting gear.

Rick "Welll it looks like a vintage York set and it could be worth a lot of money, but I have a buddy who is an expert in these things, let me get him down here and have him take a look at it

(3 minutes pass...I show up)

Customer" 'Its a 1942 original York Barbell set with 300lbs" and it was used by John Grimek and I have a photo of him with it.


Keith "Well if what you are saying is true, then it could be worth a lot of money, lets take a look ( whips out jewelers eyepiece and carefully examines the bar and plates"


Keith "hmmm...well it looks like a 1940's barbell set, but only the main part of the bar is orignally. See how the knurling is angled at a 80 degree crosscut angle?...they did that until 1952 and then they changed it to a vertical crosscut. I also found some residue of vomit on the bar and the barf does contain Hoffman Hi-Proteen powder..partially digested..but...the sleeves of the bar have been replaced. This was during the war and these sleeves are made out of titaniorium, which was not allowed to be used during the war except in making 3 inch gun casings to shell the crap out of the Japanese, It took a few years after the war before manufacturers began using it again, so the bar is orignal and the sleeves have been replaced. The plates are from the 1970;s and you can tell because the lip on the deep dish plates curls inward--that was a machinist flaw that was not caught until 1975. Also the letters YORK painted on the plates show a block type letterring design and the 1940;s York plate used a San Seriff type font. The picture of John Grimek is authentic however the autograph is a fake as Grimek is spelled "Grimeek" so overall I would say that this is a nice set, but its not a vintage set, probably worth 200 dollars a best.

Rick "Keith, thanks for coming in"

RIck "What do you want for it"

Customer "200" dollars?

(cuts away to Rick explaning how he cannot buy an item at retail because is in the business of making money and if he buys it a retail and sells it for the same price, he wont make any money and he will have to fire chumlee)

RIck "200? [deranged laugh] no way. I will give you 15 dollars

Customer "can you do 175"

Rick "15 dollars"

Customer "deal"

RIck "lets do some paperwork"

(cuts to parking lot, customer explains how they were hoping to get 1000.00 for their vintage York set, but they are happy getting their 15.00 and now they are headed to a night out on the town in vegas, Chumlee is in background carrying the rest of the plates in and drops one on the old mans foot]
 
I find it an interesting that you have a solid bench, sort of old-school, solid steel welded with tan naughehyde, vintage as hell and underneath it you have tiny pink and blue dumbells--lol. I cant wait to see the set-up when I visit this weekend.

* Why is it that EVERY guy I have ever seen that is looking at benches, whether it be Sports Authority, Dicks, or play it again,...always lays down on the bench and in a loud voice asks the salesman ( or anyone else standing by) what is the weight capacity of the bench and no matter what the answer....the guy wonders aloud if that will be enough for him. ----am I the only one who always see this?
 
I picked up the bench last night. thirty bucks. Solid, compact, old school naughehyde. Inclines every 15 degrees all the way to vertical. Solid steel welded, ie, the only bench I will need for the rest of my life. Cant wait to try it out
 
I also found some residue of vomit on the bar and the barf does contain Hoffman Hi-Proteen powder..partially digested..but...the sleeves of the bar have been replaced. This was during the war and these sleeves are made out of titaniorium, which was not allowed to be used during the war except in making 3 inch gun casings to shell the crap out of the Japanese, It took a few years after the war before manufacturers began using it again, so the bar is orignal and the sleeves have been replaced. The plates are from the 1970;s and you can tell because the lip on the deep dish plates curls inward--that was a machinist flaw that was not caught until 1975.

Hah very nice. Reminded me of the detail they go into on Antiques Roadshow, if you have that in America. The experts can pin-point almost anything (usually to some forgotten street in Sussex), regardless of it being branded or not.
 
* Why is it that EVERY guy I have ever seen that is looking at benches, whether it be Sports Authority, Dicks, or play it again,...always lays down on the bench and in a loud voice asks the salesman ( or anyone else standing by) what is the weight capacity of the bench and no matter what the answer....the guy wonders aloud if that will be enough for him. ----am I the only one who always see this?

Years ago, I bought a bench from Sports Authority and dragged it home, only to discover a little sticker on it that said "MAX CAPACITY 300 LBS". It looked pretty sturdy, but the little flyer that came with it seemed to indicate that this was lifter + weights. I wish I had asked that at the store. It would have saved me the trouble of dragging it home and back.
 
About 20 years ago, I had stopped into a small strip mall in kind of a strange part of town to meet a Chiropractor who had recently opened a clinic there and wanted to do some business with me, anyway, two doors down I saw that a sign for a gym that was being built and of course it caught my eye and all. About a month later I saw the place was open and so stopped in to take a look and the owner was this guy named wayne, who had won a Mr. Florida in years past and he actually introduced himself as Wayne ____, Mr. Florida 1987, and even answered the phone that way, which I thought was amusing. He told me he had built all of the equipment himself and in the back part of the room was a welder and items in various stages of production so I believed him. He told that there were no hardcore bodybuilding gyms in this part of the city (actually, I dont think there were any in the entire city) and he was going to bring bodybuilding to this city ( sort of like trying to build a modern art musem in rural deep South) and everytime I saw him, he was complaining about how nobody would come in, etc, and he closed shop about 4 months later.

Guess where the bench I bought last night came from? (Yep)
 
I did e-mail him and ask and it does incline. I am going to go look at it this weekend. I think it must have a bar/rod that extends down and that becomes the incline brace. It looks like the naughhyde is torn up, but duct tape on any bench automatically adds like 15lbs to your best PR. I am an old equipment junkie and love talking about it....no it was easier to just ask the guy. He does not know the manufacturer--and that is a good thing, because just about anything made pre-1980's did not have the manufacturers logo splattered all over it. Usually the equipment was made by some local/semi-regional place and having their "brand" on it was no big deal...and of course the earlier it was made, the better ( for the most part) the design looks very familiar to me and I just cannot place it.

If I lived in Las Vegas, I would like to be the guy that Rick from Pawn Stars calls in as his "buddy expert" if someone came into the shop and tried to sell some old lifting gear.

Rick "Welll it looks like a vintage York set and it could be worth a lot of money, but I have a buddy who is an expert in these things, let me get him down here and have him take a look at it

(3 minutes pass...I show up)

Customer" 'Its a 1942 original York Barbell set with 300lbs" and it was used by John Grimek and I have a photo of him with it.


Keith "Well if what you are saying is true, then it could be worth a lot of money, lets take a look ( whips out jewelers eyepiece and carefully examines the bar and plates"


Keith "hmmm...well it looks like a 1940's barbell set, but only the main part of the bar is orignally. See how the knurling is angled at a 80 degree crosscut angle?...they did that until 1952 and then they changed it to a vertical crosscut. I also found some residue of vomit on the bar and the barf does contain Hoffman Hi-Proteen powder..partially digested..but...the sleeves of the bar have been replaced. This was during the war and these sleeves are made out of titaniorium, which was not allowed to be used during the war except in making 3 inch gun casings to shell the crap out of the Japanese, It took a few years after the war before manufacturers began using it again, so the bar is orignal and the sleeves have been replaced. The plates are from the 1970;s and you can tell because the lip on the deep dish plates curls inward--that was a machinist flaw that was not caught until 1975. Also the letters YORK painted on the plates show a block type letterring design and the 1940;s York plate used a San Seriff type font. The picture of John Grimek is authentic however the autograph is a fake as Grimek is spelled "Grimeek" so overall I would say that this is a nice set, but its not a vintage set, probably worth 200 dollars a best.

Rick "Keith, thanks for coming in"

RIck "What do you want for it"

Customer "200" dollars?

(cuts away to Rick explaning how he cannot buy an item at retail because is in the business of making money and if he buys it a retail and sells it for the same price, he wont make any money and he will have to fire chumlee)

RIck "200? [deranged laugh] no way. I will give you 15 dollars

Customer "can you do 175"

Rick "15 dollars"

Customer "deal"

RIck "lets do some paperwork"

(cuts to parking lot, customer explains how they were hoping to get 1000.00 for their vintage York set, but they are happy getting their 15.00 and now they are headed to a night out on the town in vegas, Chumlee is in background carrying the rest of the plates in and drops one on the old mans foot]

I laughed.
 
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