Weidman about his expectations going into the first Anderson fight

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  1. fernandom

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    Not only GSP picks him to finish Anderson, but Weidman says people will say he got lucky if he won by KO.

    Calling it now, Gus beats Jones by flying armbar
     
  2. surgeyou1

    surgeyou1 Welcome to the Machida Era...Part Deux

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    It wasn't all luck but it was pretty fortunate that Anderson went full retard
     
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    nb4 "but Anderson always clowns!"
     
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    Everybody that had any clue about Chris knew he was a nightmare matchup for Anderson many years before he was even considered for a title shot.

    On paper, I couldn't even IMAGINE a worse matchup for Anderson than Chris, especially in hindsight.
     
  5. Captain_Dammitt

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    AS fought soooooo many people that were "bad match ups on paper".

    Id hope to avoid these types of conversations because of how they turn out but I just think Weidman came at the right time. AS could have fought almost anyone like he did Weidman and lost.
     
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    Truth right here. Was still unreal how it went down though, I was honestly expecting a ground finish from Weidman...
     
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    He(Anderson) hasn't fought anyone like Weidman, period
     
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    ...... No he didn't?

    Chael was just about the only one.... and his sub defense was known to be suspect....

    AND we all know how that fight went down sooo....

    EDIT: Some will say Hendo seemed like a bad match up for The Spider but I don't see it.
    Also, give Anderson and Chris more credit.
     
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    Not really, they generally had big holes in their games, lets go through the list of guys that matched up well, Henderson, good enough wrestling, iron chin and strong KO power, however, he gasses especially at MW, he isn't a submission threat and his stand up can be very wild. Leites and Maia had the BJJ to threaten Anderson but they didn't have the takedowns or stand up, then there's Sonnen who had the wrestling but doesn't have much finishing abliity and tends to make bone head moves in fights.

    Weidman was a threat to submit Anderson or hurt him with GnP and his MMA wrestling is IMO a bit better than Sonnen's or is at least at the same level, he also showed KO power and his striking was improving vastly every fight, he was also bigger and longer than Anderson. Anderson never fought a guy with all of those aspects, he's fought guys that had some of those aspects but not all, Henderson, Sonnen, Maia, and Leites all had/have much bigger holes in their games than Weidman.

    Like Machida said "Weidman is full of MMA".
     
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    The timing was all the more reason for people to believe in Weidman.

    Who in their right mind honestly believed that Anderson was going to show up being the best absolute version of himself at age 38 coming off a rather uninspiring win over Bonnar?

    Prime Anderson Silva died when he finished Sonnen and forced him out of the division.
     
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    GSP called it, damn
     
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    I disagree, coming off a long layoff losing his house and 2 surgeries wasn't the best time for Weidman to fight Anderson, but it didn't matter.

    That's probably right but I think Weidman beats any version of Anderson as a younger Anderson's TDD is worse and he isn't as good at getting back to his feet, he would just lose differently.
     
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    I thought the first fight might end up like Anderson vs Maia. I didn't think Weidman would be much of a threat standing. We all know what happened.
     
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    looking foward for his next fight, great guy
     
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    I love Anderson fans.

    In the thread debating Fedor, GSP and Anderson as GOAT, big time Anderson nuthugger theComeBackKid states it is because Anderson "... finishing his opponents and doing stuff weve never seen before" that solidifies Anderson's greatness.

    Time and again we have seen Anderson applauded for the Matrix, his clowning and antics as if him willingly taking on risk to get a flashy finish was the thing that made him greater, despite most saying his comp was not as good as it could have been.

    Then this is the other flip side. When Anderson loses doing what makes him great, it is him going full retard and someone it is a discounted win for his opponent by so many Anderson fans. If you can beat him doing the very thing that makes him great somehow you should get less credit. :redface:
     
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    yup.

    For years people talked about the hole in Andersons game and whether there was a fighter at MW who could take advantage of it.

    Anderson and his camp and his fans wanted no part of Chris and tried every trick in the book to avoid fighting him while campaigning for someone like Bisping because they knew the challenge Chris would pose.

    there is a reason so many polled, included Fighters thought Chris would pull of the upset.

    ya that is some BS. Sorry. But you show me the polls of fans and fighters favouring anyone over Anderson to the tune of how many picked Chris to upset him due to the style matchup.
     
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    that is some crazy revisionist shit.

    Going into the fight Weidman had the long layoff, the surgery and the personal problems. Silva fans en masse were saying Weidman should be forced to take a warm up fight because Anderson was going to beat him easily and would get no credit for the win due to those issues.

    After Weidman won and going into the second fight Anderson fans again were saying Serious Silva was going to walk through Weidman and prove the first win was just a Serra moment for Weidman and Weidman should not get a rubber match fight since the first fight basically did not count.

    Only after the second devastating loss did Anderson fans start to try and rewrite history suggesting it was obvious Anderson was past his prime and Chris would win.
     
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    All I know is I made money off both fights.
     
  19. JKS

    JKS 77+&--#rT....

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    I disagree...the Anderson Silva of 2006 to 2009 kills 2006/2009 Weidman. Chris had his first fight in 2009 and Anderson would have easily won....especially in 2006, 3 years before Weidmans first pro fight.

    So there!!
     
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    Chris comes across as calm and confident. Nice video.

    This talk about certain fighters being great wrestlers, who instead stand and bang, has to stop. Henderson and Rashad are good examples. They rarely take guys down. Their counter wrestling is excellent but wrestling chops diminish if you don't work it. The strength and explosiveness can fade quite quickly.
     

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