We need 195 pounds weight class.

[rjmbrd]

it would be pointless making 165 as there’s already well established 170 division.
anybody asking for 165 can easily fight at 170
165 is being requested by gate keepers who can’t cut it in 155 n 170

The math disagrees with you.

Number of fighters signed / division:

46 - 265lbs
49 - 205lbs
61 - 185lbs
86 - 170lbs
88 - 155lbs
72 - 145lbs
80 - 135lbs

If you add a 165lbs division, you would end up with an average of 58 guys in each of 155/165/175, which would STILL be more depth then 205/265.

 

[Regal Boy]

They can't get any depth as it is from 185-265, its pointless to spread the increments equally even though there is half the depth up top.

fighters currently signed / weight division

46 - 265lbs
49 - 205lbs
61 - 185lbs
86 - 170lbs
88 - 155lbs
72 - 145lbs
80 - 135lbs

If you add a 165lbs division, you would end up with an average of 58 guys in each of 155/165/175, which would STILL be more depth then 205/265.

No, because weight cutting would be eliminated via hydration tests (and other tests), everyone would get bumped up to their proper classes.

Every person who's right now fighting at lightweight would become a middleweight. All the LHW would be heavyweights. The current middles would become cruisers and maybe even heavies. the Welters would become light heavies, the bantams and flys would become feathers and lightweights, etc.

No one would be able to cut more weight than other people for an advantage. I remember Tyron woodley saying he walks around at 205 pounds. That would make him a cruiserweight in reality, or a light heavy if he lost some weight. Overall people would no longer have weight advantages against each other because it wouldnt be possible to do so, and the divisions wouldn't have the numbers you're posting.

 

[rjmbrd]

No, because weight cutting would be eliminated via hydration tests (and other tests), everyone would get bumped up to their proper classes.

Every person who's right now fighting at lightweight would become a middleweight. All the LHW would be heavyweights. The current middles would become cruisers and maybe even heavies. the Welters would become light heavies, the bantams and flys would become feathers and lightweights, etc.

No one would be able to cut more weight than other people for an advantage. I remember Tyron woodley saying he walks around at 205 pounds. That would make him a cruiserweight in reality, or a light heavy if he lost some weight. Overall people would no longer have weight advantages against each other because it wouldnt be possible to do so, and the divisions wouldn't have the numbers you're posting.

The NCAA instituted hydration tests and yearly weight certification nearly two decades ago. This came after a string of weight cutting deaths.

I wrestled in college and went through seasonal weight certification (it is very difficult to move DOWN in weight any season once a doctor has already certified your lowest weight) and took part in specific gravity tests as part of our program.

This does not remotely allow you LESS weight divisions. We still have lopsided depth at 155-170. It is common sense to adjust these to 155-165-175.

You would most certainly see guys who are doing heavy cuts to 155 right now move up to 165lbs. The same goes for current welterweights who can be shifted to 175lbs.

It is a daydream to think guys currently fighting 170lbs will shift further past 175lbs. That is not happening with hydration tests.

 

[Regal Boy]

The NCAA instituted hydration tests and yearly weight certification nearly two decades ago. This came after a string of weight cutting deaths.

I wrestled in college and went through seasonal weight certification (it is very difficult to move DOWN in weight any season once a doctor has already certified your lowest weight) and took part in specific gravity tests as part of our program.

This does not remotely allow you LESS weight divisions. We still have lopsided depth at 155-170. It is common sense to adjust these to 155-165-175.

You would most certainly see guys who are doing heavy cuts to 155 right now move up to 165lbs. The same goes for current welterweights who can be shifted to 175lbs.

It is a daydream to think guys currently fighting 170lbs will shift further past 175lbs. That is not happening with hydration tests.

We can force fighters to drink a gallon of water while being watched by the commission before testing their gravity to know that they are not cutting any weight.

NO weight cutting anymore, at all. If you walk around at a 180, you fight at 180.

 

[MileHigher]

That's stupid considering Stipe weighs 230. You don't need to be an oaf to become HW champion.

That’s kind of my point.

 

[arcadeperfect]

That’s kind of my point.

225 division is pointless. Guys who aren't big enough are already at LHW. Who the hell is 225 catering towards? It's a pointless division. Heavyweight should be anything beyond 205 without an upper limit.

 

[Alpha_T83]

Feels bit redundant, doesn't it? 185-195-205

It's even more stupid to have 165 pounds weight class.

155-165-170

Fighters who can't cut it at either weight classes want that weight class. But it's stupid af. It would be like flyweight where they can fight at both at that weight class and weight class above, but even more useless because of 5 pounds difference between 165 and 170.

Nah.

Better would be 155, 165, 175, 190, 205.

 

[NuMe]

The weight classes are fine as they are. They should consider eliminating Men's 125, and the Women's 145 divisions. Do not need more. We do not need to accomodate people who are stuck in the middle of weight classes (165 or 195). They should learn to bulk up or cut weight properly.

This.

Also, 7 + 3 champions = 10 champions. More than enough.

 

[BRASIL WAND]

The talent pool in MMA is already watered down enough as it is. Introducing make believe weigh classes would only further water them down with even LESS deserving champs... ie fighters who couldn’t cut it in other divisions.


If anything there should be LESS weight classes. Get rid of FLW MANLETS, Merge all WMMA or send it all to Invicta, and make anything over 200lbs HW without weight limit.

 

[Benoitthegr8]

What if the fighter is 5'9 1/2"?

Platform shoes and bang with the big boys, otherwise cut height like Shank Carwinner did

 

[rjmbrd]

We can force fighters to drink a gallon of water while being watched by the commission before testing their gravity to know that they are not cutting any weight.

NO weight cutting anymore, at all. If you walk around at a 180, you fight at 180.

This is a fantasy version of an already solved problem.

The NCAA implemented weight certification and hydration testing literally two decades ago. It is imperfect, but an enormous improvement and we no longer see grave injuries from weight cutting in NCAA wrestling.

So there is a proven, decades-long scientific protocol to follow that has served tens of thousands of student athletes successfully.

You aren't going to 'force' anyone to drink a gallon of water, its stupid at face value and frankly moronic.

 

[Spitfire3000]

Feels bit redundant, doesn't it? 185-195-205

It's even more stupid to have 165 pounds weight class.

155-165-170

Fighters who can't cut it at either weight classes want that weight class. But it's stupid af. It would be like flyweight where they can fight at both at that weight class and weight class above, but even more useless because of 5 pounds difference between 165 and 170.

Bruh

It wouldn't be 165-170-185, it would be 175

 

[Franklin U.]

No - we don't . Having enough problems getting anticipated match ups at 185 and 205. Its 2020 and the UFC should have that problem/option but reality dictates otherwise.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

We don't even need 35 and 45. And I am a fan of Cruz and saying this. These guys all cut shit tons of weight. Max at 6 feet tall fighting at 45 and walking at like 170.. 155 should be the lowest class..

 

[kmeyers]

Forget new weight classes, Weigh ins should be the day of the fight, an hour before fight time. Enough of this BS weight cutting and regaining 20 lbs in a day.