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WBC orders Fury to fight Whyte before any Joshua fight happens

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  1. PHATV FREE @RR!!! Platinum Member

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    Agree. We have to see that fight. If Wilder touches him, AJ is out cold for 11 minutes. Like where we're all freaking out and then he comes to and is fine. And if Wilder doesn't get in a clean shot, AJ beats him like Rocky Balboa beating a side of beef in the latter part of the fight. Stops Wilder in the 9th or 10th.
     
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    I respectfully disagree, the better you are, the less chance you have against Fury, because he fucks around with the ones he doesn’t expect to be a threat but comes out 100% with the ones that are dangerous. So if it’s between him and the top of the division I just don’t see him losing.

    maybe white has a chance since nobody really thinks he has a shot, maybe Andy Ruiz could surprise him but I don’t see wilder, Joshua or Usyk giving him big problems at this time
     
  3. guardyogrill White Belt

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    contenders? joshua has 3 of the major belts ....fury 1 . joshua is no contender .
     
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    Can't do anything about that.
     
  5. Ryeback Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Fuck the WBC
     
  6. deucesarewild Blue Belt

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    The WBC makes some weird choices when it tries to flex.
     
  7. mb2621 Green Belt

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    AJ never beat Fury for those titles. He only got them because Fury had to vacate.
     
  8. BoxingMMA Brown Belt

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    Well, I just like to think of it as one champion and the rest are challengers, for me Fury has always been the real champion, solidified when he beat Deontay the first time and made it clear the second time.
     
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  9. guardyogrill White Belt

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    that's not true ... he had to whop some ass to get those belts. it was not handed to him.
     
  10. guardyogrill White Belt

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    yeah to you ......... reality is he only has the wbc belt (lol,and ring magazine belt) .A.J is no challenger it's champion vs champion ....... facts homie.
     
  11. BoxingMMA Brown Belt

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    Yea its why I specified “for me” because I tend not to give a shit about multiple belts, when there’s usual and obvious common sense as to who the reigning champ is, the rest of the belts dont matter. Again, for me, when Joshua lost to Ruiz and then had to beat him by literally running away from him in a rematch, he wasn’t the top dog anymore.

    Also, stylistically, I just dont see him giving fury that big of a problem. But I would love to see it, that’s for sure, more so than a third wilder fight, the Usyk fight would be terribly boring.
     
  12. guardyogrill White Belt

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    lol, not running away ,it's called boxing ..... i'm looking forward to joshua knocking out fury.
     
  13. Deaths Head Orange Belt

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    A.J isn’t the number one guy according to what rankings that are official ?

    No official rankings put lineal as anything ,I’m not the fan boy who suggests Fury may have defended titles because he’s lineal and if that’s the case against who and are these title defenses against what ppl consider legit, Pianetta , Safari, Schwartz ? Certainly no one actually ranked in a top 10 .lol

    A.J hasn’t dropped in the rankings he’s recovered his belts and the Transnational rankings by its own rule has to put Fury number one after an A.J loss but those aren’t official rankings they are do not follow protocol of the actual sanctioning bodies to where A.J is number one in multiple bodies, I’m sure you can grasp that right ?


    The funny thing here is you deem A.J has 3 belts even though he’s carrying 4 and claim no one counts an actual real life belt one can hold and one he represents in real life and don’t regard it but will make an argument for some lineal b.s I could easily tell you why it’s not even legit in Furys case beyond the logical thought process of it’s a self made label .,I could make a case for Vitali or even actually A.J more lineal but I think it’s a bunch of horse shyte anyway so I won’t . lmao
     
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  14. Deaths Head Orange Belt

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    Why ? You can claim that if Wilder hadn’t lost twice ,and if he loses three times it’s going to be just another blow over fight most won’t lose sleep over if it doesn’t happen ,much like Bowe vs Lewis when Bowe looked like a mockery against Golota before Lewis got sparked out or was it after ? Boxing has more then enough fights that make Wilder irrelevant in the big picture by 2021 .
     
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    Why do people talk like Wilder has a literal touch of death? He landed flush on Molina, Arreola, Duhaupas, Ortiz many times and took a while to put them all away. I swear some people talk like Joshua will be just another Breazeale against Wilder.
     
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    Yeah it's curious. AJ has been put down or wobbled in quite a few fights by Whyte, Klitschko, Povetkin and Ruiz (all are heavy hitters) but he always gets back up. No one has put him to sleep yet. So I don't see it as a formality that Wilder will automatically turn his lights out if he lands flush. Wilder couldn't put Fury away and I don't see the evidence that he'll put Joshua away either.
     
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    Well, Ruiz had AJ all kinds of fucked up and he's never shown a granite chin. If you think Wilder wouldn't put him out with one clean shot, then that's your opinion. I would beg to differ.
     
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    Who do you think punches/punched harder than him?

    Did those guys knock all of their opponents out in the first or second round....? Did anyone manage to not go down for a while? Does that mean they werent scary punchers?

    Wilder has scary power. Its silly to say otherwise. The manner in which people have folded to his punches are absolutely brutal and there is legit concern for their well being afterwards.

    I agree it doesnt mean he puts AJ’s lights out the first time he lands, but he most certainly can knock AJ out.
     
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    Ruiz landed multiple times and in flurries and combinations ,the only one to actually make A.J fall with one punch was Klitschko who is a better puncher then Wilder and Joshua was tired when that punch landed in round 6 which means if you can’t take a punch you wouldn’t remotely get up from a shot like that .

    A.J is also a master at avoiding danger early on ,should Wilder rock him he has great abilities to avoid follow up big shots , Ruiz did not finish A.J early he didn’t even finish him late ,the ref stopped a Joshua saying he’s o.k to fight on .


    Could Wilder knock A.J out with one punch , I highly doubt it unless it’s late in the fight bc Joshua is very savvy and will have the experience of surviving a wild puncher coming at him if he’s hurt ,for Joshua not to get up a combination of things have to happen and Wilder is missing so many of them .
     
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    AJ may well beat him, but if Wilder gets off a clean straight right he's not going to. Wilder has one-shot power against anyone and I don't think AJ or his chin like getting hit, so while I might even favor AJ, I still think one shot could end him. Completely sparked out. Does that one shot land? Maybe not. We'll see.
     
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