Was the trio of Fedor, Nog, and Cro Cop better than Cain, Jones, and DC?

[Tapping Machine]

Obviously people will be strongly opinionated on both sides, but I think it's a fair question.

If we're discussing skill level at their peaks, which trio was better?

I'd give the advantage to the UFC trio personally because I think Cro Cop and Nog weren't as well-rounded as them but it's close overall.

I think peak Cain was better than peak Fedor
I think Jones was a lot better than Nog
Mirko probably beats DC head to head but is not as skilled overall

Edit: I almost included Stipe in this but I put DC in instead because he's undefeated at HW

 

[Frankie Baby!]

No

 

[wilKO]

You have 3 great fighters from 1 weight class at the same time vs a LHW, a HW and a guy who can do both. There is more romance with the 3 HWs. It's like Ali, Frasier, and Foreman. 3 elites in the same division at the same time.

I also think the 3 Pride guys in prime would beat up those 3 UFC guys in prime.

 

[Reclusive]

Prime Cain, Jones, and DC all beat any version of Fedor, Nog, and Cro Cop

Any unbiased MMA fan knows this and would agree.

 

[wilKO]

Prime Cain, Jones, and DC all beat any version of Fedor, Nog, and Cro Cop

Any unbiased MMA fan knows this and would agree.

Prime Cain got KTFO in 1 minute and then bludgeoned by Werdum in his hometown. You're making a massive leap to say he beats Fedor or prime Cro Cop and Nog.

And Jones has 0 HW wins ever. Fedor never lost in 10 years at HW.

 

[Tapping Machine]

Prime Cain got KTFO in 1 minute and then bludgeoned by Werdum in his hometown. You're making a massive leap to say he beats Fedor or prime Cro Cop and Nog.

And Jones has 0 HW wins ever. Fedor never lost in 10 years at HW.

That's very disingenuous. You make it sound like he was beaten by a complete can

Prime JDS has a good chance to beat all three PRIDE HW kings, the dude was a fucking animal. Prime Mirko Cro Cop got KO'd stiff by Randleman, which is a far worse loss than Cain losing to juiced Werdum.

If JDS had hit Fedor with the same punch slow ass Fujita hit him with, he'd still be sleeping today.

 

[cyrusthevyrus]

YES

 

[cyrusthevyrus]

Prime Cain, Jones, and DC all beat any version of Fedor, Nog, and Cro Cop

Any unbiased MMA fan knows this and would agree.

your belt shows that you are a kid

 

[Andre Xiong]

UFC ultimate shill post listing Jones along with HW greats

 

[wilKO]

That's very disingenuous. You make it sound like he was beaten by a complete can

Prime JDS has a good chance to beat all three PRIDE HW kings, the dude was a fucking animal. Prime Mirko Cro Cop got KO'd stiff by Randleman, which is a far worse loss than Cain losing to juiced Werdum.

If JDS had hit Fedor with the same punch slow ass Fujita hit him with, he'd still be sleeping today.

Before prime JDS lost his toughest opponent was the ghost of Cro Cop. If Fedor hit the same armbar Vitor freaking Belfort hit Jones' arm would be shattered.

 

[Arrrrgh]

No. I think Jon, DC and Cain are better overall but it is a different era. Prime Fedor could stop all 3 in the same night tho so IDK.

 

[RonniePickering]

Cro Cop went from winning the Pride FC Final Conflict Absolute to getting KO'd by Gonzaga 7 months later and then losing to Kongo lol DC would wreck him

 

[Reclusive]

Prime Cain got KTFO in 1 minute and then bludgeoned by Werdum in his hometown. You're making a massive leap to say he beats Fedor or prime Cro Cop and Nog.

Cro Cop would have nothing for Cain's wrestling/GnP (see the Randleman fight) and he already KO'd Nog. Prime JDS hit's significantly harder than Fedor, and Cain at his best is just better than Fedor he just isn't as explosive and Fedor is slightly faster. Cain smothers him and pounds him out.

And Jones has 0 HW wins ever. Fedor never lost in 10 years at HW.

Fedor never faced someone like Jones. Jones beat the better version of Fedor in DC TWICE.

 

[Tapping Machine]

Before prime JDS lost his toughest opponent was the ghost of Cro Cop. If Fedor hit the same armbar Vitor freaking Belfort hit Jones' arm would be shattered.

Carwin at the time was a far better opponent than old Cro Cop and JDS absolutely rekd him

Nog lost to MW Decision Dan in RINGS (plus Nog was getting beat up in every fight even against average opponents so using one of Jon Jones' few moments of trouble as "evidence" is hilarious), Fedor almost got KO'd by Fujita and almost submitted by Hunt, and Mirko got knocked out brutally by Gonzaga and lost to Kongo a mere few months after his OWGP victory. Plus he got rekd by Randleman in his absolute prime, a fight which was considered a squash match and an easy warm up fight for him to set up a fight with Fedor.

Anyone can play this cherry picking game, and the UFC guys have way less embarrassing losses than the PRIDE guys. It is a question of skillsets.

 

[Shadowthrone]

Cain aint shit so yea

 

[moreorless87]

Carwin at the time was a far better opponent than old Cro Cop and JDS absolutely rekd him

Nog lost to MW Decision Dan in RINGS, Fedor almost got KO'd by Fujita and almost submitted by Hunt, and Mirko got knocked out brutally by Gonzaga and lost to Kongo a mere few months after his OWGP victory. Plus he got rekd by Randleman in his absolute prime, a fight which was considered a squash match and an easy warm up fight for him to set up a fight with Fedor.

Anyone can play this cherry picking game, and the UFC guys have way less embarrassing losses than the PRIDE guys. It is a question of skillsets.

You do realise we have something call the "Nogs law" in Sherdog? that is anyone that views Nog/Hendo in Rings as a negative for the former officially doesn't know what the hell their talking about and is just bullshitting looking at wiki pages.

 

[Aluminati]

Obviously people will be strongly opinionated on both sides, but I think it's a fair question.

If we're discussing skill level at their peaks, which trio was better?

I'd give the advantage to the UFC trio personally because I think Cro Cop and Nog weren't as well-rounded as them but it's close overall.

I think peak Cain was better than peak Fedor
I think Jones was a lot better than Nog
Mirko probably beats DC head to head but is not as skilled overall

Edit: I almost included Stipe in this but I put DC in instead because he's undefeated at HW

If you compare UFC LHW and Pride LHW, Pride rules, hands down.
Hendo, Sakuraba, Arona, Shogun, Wand, Rampage, Lil Nog, Mezger, and Overeem.

HW is interesting... except that Sergei would beat 99% of them today, let alone when he was in his prime.
Sergei matches up well with Volkov, Lewis, Ngannou, JDS, Stipe, and Blaydes.
He fucking KO'd Ubereem for Christsakes.

 

[GoatArtemLobov]

Definitely not !!
Prime Cain> Jones on steroids > Cormier >>>>>> Fedor>Nog>Cro Cop
But I can be wrong...

 

[tkotom]

Prime Cain, Jones, and DC all beat any version of Fedor, Nog, and Cro Cop

Any unbiased MMA fan knows this and would agree.

Jones is a PROVEN convict, drug addict and PED cheat who has to shoot up steroids to gain advantages over his opponents.

PRIME DC could barely handle a fat, tired, last minute Anderson. You really think a prime Cro Cop wouldn't put up a fight against him?

 

[Sweater of AV]

I believe so.