Was the damage chuck took really as bad as people make it out to be?

[steamboat100]

As far as I can see he got slept by champions right in their prime, outside of Rich Franklin, whom with he fought reckless than dove straight into a right hand. He was easily on the way to victory and got overconfident there.

Now I know seeing someone's body go limp is concerning, seeing someone who was the best in the world lose devastatingly is shocking and the big man Dana decided to voice his opinion thus influencing hoards of people who can't think for themselves... but taking into account the reality of it all... is it really that bad?

Of course he's now almost 50 years old, so the ship has kinda in all likelihood sailed, and the argument against him fighting again is much stronger... but at least back in the day why was there so much pressure on the guy to retire?

I see much less concern every time Alistair fights, who has been KO'd double digit times. We recently saw him get his head drilled into the mat by Stipe, rocked and dropped by Werdum and killed by Ngannou... he's very old in his own right, is fighting at a riskier weight and is by all means very coherent and sharp.

Anyway that's just my piece. I felt like it had to be said. The CTE panic is annoying at this point. It might seem strange but fighters don't get their CNS and brain stem shocked and head rattled with as much frequency or intensity as the NFL players who commit suicide due to brain problems do.

Is the greatest fighter of all time having Parkinsons very publically have anything to do with this? I think so.

 

[Dozer .]

A light breeze would rock Chuck at this point

 

[AimedWithV]

As far as I can see he got slept by champions right in their prime, outside of Rich Franklin, whom with he fought reckless than dove straight into a right hand. He was easily on the way to victory and got overconfident there.

Now I know seeing someone's body go limp is concerning, seeing someone who was the best in the world lose devastatingly is shocking and the big man Dana decided to voice his opinion thus influencing hoards of people who can't think for themselves... but taking into account the reality of it all... is it really that bad?

Of course he's now almost 50 years old, so the ship has kinda in all likelihood sailed, and the argument against him fighting again is much stronger... but at least back in the day why was there so much pressure on the guy to retire?

I see much less concern every time Alistair fights, who has been KO'd double digit times. We recently saw him get his head drilled into the mat by Stipe, rocked and dropped by Werdum and killed by Ngannou... he's very old in his own right, is fighting at a riskier weight and is by all means very coherent and sharp.

Anyway that's just my piece. I felt like it had to be said. The CTE panic is annoying at this point. It might seem strange but fighters don't get their CNS and brain stem shocked and head rattled with as much frequency or intensity as the NFL players who commit suicide due to brain problems.

Is the greatest fighter of all time having Parkinsons very publically have anything to do with this? I think so.

You're an idiot.

MMA is a young sport.

Look what happens to one of its founders, Gary Goodridge.

Everybody knows that Overeem's brain will turn into a total mess at the end of his career.
So is Arlovski's.

And yes: to answer your idiotic question - it IS reakky that bad.

/thread

 

[YoudBeSurprised]

Well Chuck used to have an iron chin so when he started to get KO’d by light shots it was kind of alarming i’d imagine. He was also getting completely flatlined every time he got knocked out, which is also alarming.

 

[WendalClark17]

His chin was pretty good until Rampage cracked it, and then Rashad just ended it with that KTFO. Franklin and Shogun just added to his future brain damage with their KTFO’s.

I’ll be sad to see him get KO’d again, I used to be a huge fan

 

[Leinster Rugby]

his chin is shot to fook

 

[Stoic1]

Uhh uhh uhhuhuh y-y-y-yeah p-p-p-p uhhh uhh p-p-pretty m-mu-muh-much.

 

[ClosetVitorFan]

Chuck got knocked out by a mw Rich Franklin (past his prime) with an arm punch. Just total lights out for Chuck. Now if all these years of not fighting and absorbing punishment has helper his chin recover some then who knows. But it was bad. Chuck used to have a goat chin.

 

[Deleted member 478803]

Whom with he.

 

[KingBeef]

Yes it is. When you are repeatedly and consecutively getting KO'd like that when it never happened before, your brain is telling you something. You don't just crumble like a ton of bricks over and over for nothing.

 

[MayhemMonkey]

thats the end of his last 3 fights.....so Im going to go with "yes"

 

[MescalineDreams]

absolutely

The amount of damage they take Is also In sparring / gym wars

Chuck came from a pretty oldschool time and oldschool gym.

Without a doubt the way he was training was far less intelligent than what fighters are trying to implement these days In order to preserve longevity.

Years of sparring, wars In the gym, accumulated blows, multiple brutal knockouts..without a doubt Chuck took a ton of damage.

Therein lies the curse with the iron chin I suppose, you can afford to get away with taking shots to give one..but eventually It catches up to you.

 

[Ares Black]

 

[MarkHematominick]

I'm a huge fan of Chuck, but I'm surprised he didn't lose Dancing with the Stars by brutal KO at this point... It's basically proven that a huge concussion increases the likelihood of future concussions, and the older you get the harder it is to "improve" brain damage for all of you who think maybe since he took a few years off... That shit doesn't regenerate, its kinda the reason we want to study stem cells so much..

 

[Tuf_guy]

As far as I can see he got slept by champions right in their prime, outside of Rich Franklin, whom with he fought reckless than dove straight into a right hand. He was easily on the way to victory and got overconfident there.

Now I know seeing someone's body go limp is concerning, seeing someone who was the best in the world lose devastatingly is shocking and the big man Dana decided to voice his opinion thus influencing hoards of people who can't think for themselves... but taking into account the reality of it all... is it really that bad?

Of course he's now almost 50 years old, so the ship has kinda in all likelihood sailed, and the argument against him fighting again is much stronger... but at least back in the day why was there so much pressure on the guy to retire?

I see much less concern every time Alistair fights, who has been KO'd double digit times. We recently saw him get his head drilled into the mat by Stipe, rocked and dropped by Werdum and killed by Ngannou... he's very old in his own right, is fighting at a riskier weight and is by all means very coherent and sharp.

Anyway that's just my piece. I felt like it had to be said. The CTE panic is annoying at this point. It might seem strange but fighters don't get their CNS and brain stem shocked and head rattled with as much frequency or intensity as the NFL players who commit suicide due to brain problems do.

Is the greatest fighter of all time having Parkinsons very publically have anything to do with this? I think so.

Yes it was bad.
Got knocked out cold by Rampage, rocked by Jardine, I hear, knocked out cold by Rashad, knocked out by Franklin, all in a relatively small stretch of time.
And his defense was clearly not good, so more of that would be the most reasonable expectation.

Forgot he got knocked out by Shogun, too.


Chuck was already starting to get a slurred voice around the time he won the belt which was before repeated knockouts. Listen to his prefight interview before the first Randy fight, and try to find him speaking anytime from the Jeremy Horn rematch on to notice the difference.

 

[Fishmonger]

Nah, he's fine. Chuck was just letting his opponents win because he already tasted victory on the biggest stage and wanted to dance on Dancing with the Stars.

 

[Johnny_Knuckles]

Anyway that's just my piece. I felt like it had to be said. The CTE panic is annoying at this point. It might seem strange but fighters don't get their CNS and brain stem shocked and head rattled with as much frequency or intensity as the NFL players who commit suicide due to brain problems do.

Is the greatest fighter of all time having Parkinsons very publically have anything to do with this? I think so.

You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about regarding CTE and I can almost guarantee that you don’t have any experience participating in combat sports, and if you do, please stop because you have no idea of the consequences and therefore do not have the capacity to make an informed decision to participate into it.

Fuck, the most recent research indicates that one concussion is enough to have significant long term ramifications, let alone getting bashed about for a living.

So, hate to break it to you, kid, but CTE isn’t being blown out of proportion, if anything true insight into the effects of concussions is only really being discovered.

 

[MescalineDreams]

still one of the most brutal mma knockouts ever

what ever happened to that rashad

 

[XThe GreatestX]

Yeah i think so. It happened so quick too. But thays the fight game


And it was never a tko either. He was getting completely ko’d over and over again. Even the shogun one, he was basically out.

 

[Milgrim]

No, he's fine ...