was Rampage vs Abidi considered an upset at the time?

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  1. revoltub

    revoltub blackwater Belt

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    I recently watched it. rampage had such sloppy form for KB. A buddy of mine said abidi wasnt a good KBer anyway. Any truth to this?
     
  2. Snubnoze707

    Snubnoze707 High Level

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    Abidi had some lucky big wins but otherwise sucked and has been completely forgotten outside of MMA fans bringing up this Rampage fight from time to time.
     
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    abidi was on his way to becoming the K-1 GOAT but some no-namer MMA guy beat him up twice. huge upset.
     
  4. TonyK

    TonyK Brown Belt

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    Lets make a thread about "your favorite French killers"
     
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    first fight was an upset, 2nd one, not so much.
     
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    onne1983 Orange Belt

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    Abidi was never a good kickboxer. He was a tough as nails brawler. His mentality got him where he got more than his skills did help him get there. But to be honest, Almost every kickboxing enthusiastic (Including me) expected Abidi to win. so it should be considered an upset.
    Hoost vs Sapp. Now that was an upset.
     
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    jtwarwagon4life Green Belt

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    Y'all kickboxing nuthuggers make me sick! You'll do anything to protect the cherished images of kickboxers as indomitable super strikers, even if it means trashing the career of a wonderful kickboxer like Cyril Abidi. Anytime an MMA fighter gets a win over an elite kickboxer it's "oh, they got lucky", or "he was old", or "oh, he was never any good to begin with"; anything to discredit them. Bunch of butthurt losers, the lot of you!

    Edit: And of course the other excuse that kickboxing nuthuggers love to make is "oh, that MMA guy was really a kickboxer" so apparently this isn't supposed to reflect badly on kickboxing. Just leave aside the fact that MMA guys almost never have any pro kickboxing experience, and whatever experience they do have will pale in comparison with that of a K1 great.
     
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    jtwarwagon4life Green Belt

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    I'd rather make a list comparing the relative accomplishments of the best MMA fighters and the best kickboxers. Can we agree that there wouldn't more than 5 kickboxers in the top 100? Can we agree that Takeru wouldn't even be top 1000?
     
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    jtwarwagon4life Green Belt

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    Too bad Cyril Abidi never trained at "world renowned CSA gym", then maybe he'd have apologists to go to bat for him, even in the face of overwhelming evidence.
     
  10. Snubnoze707

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    Quiet down Cocakillbana 2.0
     
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    jtwarwagon4life Green Belt

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    "K1 level striking":




     
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  12. ask

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    you forgot that brazillian vs krazy horse.
     
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    IndyCovaHart Gold Belt

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    Cyril has a win over Aerts if I'm not mistaken.
     
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    AbeRudder Green Belt

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    Cyril's fights were entertaining as fuck. Dude was the bumswinging lord.

    2 wins i think.
     
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    cool post.

    Shilt was a KBer tho
     
  16. jtwarwagon4life

    jtwarwagon4life Green Belt

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    If I was to include MMA bout the list would get embarrassingly long, for the kickboxers.
     
  17. jtwarwagon4life

    jtwarwagon4life Green Belt

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    Wrong. Mediocre Karateka, turned mediocre MMA fighter, turned kickboxing goat.
     
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    jtwarwagon4life Green Belt

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    "K1 level striking" part 2:







     
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    Yugo King You are overrated on Sherdog Double Yellow Card

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    ADCC Black Belt Level Grappling. Jones was a White or Blue Belt
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  20. Yugo King

    Yugo King You are overrated on Sherdog Double Yellow Card

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    Ludwig was a kickboxer before mma you dummbass

    Shilt is a kickboxing all time great, more kickboxer then mma fighter

    Goodridge was a full blown full time kickboxer and mma fighter, he had like 30 k1 fights and that´s his only top win he lost to like 20 other top guys but in any case he was a k1 fighter

    Kato Shilling is Bellator kickboxing not k1. Dumbass

    Jacoby turned kickboxer full time, it´s like a mma fighter winning bjj competitions which happens.

    Overeem and Gegard are from the #1 nation of kickboxing in the universe, the netherlands and have been doing kickboxing since they were little, and Overeem competed 4 times in pro kickboxing before he became a top mma fighter and he fought the majority of his career ,until a few years back, out of a kickboxing gym out of the #1 kickboxing gym worldwide golden glory which also is the follow up organization to k1 and currently world wide biggest kickboxing organization, he is a kickboxer.
     

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