Was it me or was that reporter that interviewed Dana reponsible for the cut?

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  1. 99Silva

    99Silva Banned Banned

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    To me it seemed like he instigated the whole thing. Saying how does it look trying to move forward and get mma sanctioned in New York Blah Blah Blah. Then he says something like this isn't the first time this has happened. Are the Senators right about this being a sport that isn't safe....then dana says he will no longer fight in the UFC.

    Instigation all the way there. WOuld he have gotten cut if the guy didn't bring up New york and all that...

    BTW....Palhares did not hold on for too long. That BAN was wrong! I guarantee you there is worst. Ronda held Miesha's arm for about the same length of time when she snapped it.
     
  2. Junior Cigano**

    Junior Cigano** Brown Belt

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    I'm 100% positive Uncle Dana decided to cut him before that interview.
     
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    If you think a reporter prompted Dana to make a decision on the spot you're wrong. It was already decided long before that. Dana doesnt decide who gets cut. The Fertitta's do.

    With that said, ESPN and other news networks routinely bring reporters in to cover these events whom have no business doing so in the first place.
     
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    Would've have had little bearing on Dana's decision.
     
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    stin4tw Brown Belt

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    Second time he's done that bullshit. Think he would have learned after his first suspension.

    Have fun in Bellator.
     
  6. BJJesus

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    I'm amazed at how many people don't think he held the sub too long. the ref actually had to pry him off. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but I honestly think anytime the ref has to jump on you and physical pull you off that it is too long. It should take maybe a tenth of a second to let go once the ref touches you or says stop. Not trying to start an argument just my 2 cents.
     
  7. 99Silva

    99Silva Banned Banned

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    You do know Palhares had his legs farthest away from Pierces' mouth plus I don't think he understands English very well....The ref did not pry him off. HOw could he? THat ref weighed like 120lbs...
     
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    He didn't pry him off. Here's a vid.

    [YT]lyMB5DhJ7Fw[/YT]
     
  9. BJJesus

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    that video stops right when the ref jumps on him. If you watch it when it doesn't freeze he jerks twice on PHs arm to get him to release.

    and 1.8 second is a really long time when you're talking combat sports. When i compete everyone releases subs way quicker than that and all the ref has to do is touch you.
     
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    Palhares got cut because he's an irrelevant bad sport who will never be top ten, or even top 20, who holds submissions too long, potentially injuring actual good fighters unlucky enough to fall to the one trick pony.
     
  11. AppliedScience

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    And that Schaap has no business "reporting" on anything.
     
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    It's 1.08 seconds not 1.8 and if the rule of thumb for human reaction is 0.25 seconds (Deadliest Warrior anyone?) then Paulie held on for 0.83 seconds too long. Also, that prying you are talking about doesn't do a thing if Paulie doesn't want it to.

    He obviously held on longer then he should have, but I don't think it's as bad as the people on this forum are making it out to be.
     
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    All I keep hearing is "heat of the moment", "he's a simple man that has trouble understanding", or "it wasn't that bad."

    Heat of the moment is bullshit. You can feel a tap, you can feel a referee prying your arms, you can hear screaming when it's a foot away.

    If he's smart enough to pull off complex BJJ technique, he's not simple enough to not recognize this situation.

    It was bad. Not because of the one time, but because this is a recurring theme. Helio, Flavio, Drawl, and now Pierce.

    I don't like taking food off a man's table, but he's coming off two KO losses, and he can open a mediocre gym easily. So I'm not that sad.
     
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    Ronda let go as soon as Miesha tapped. Mir let go as soon as Big Nog tapped. It's just that Miesha and Big Nog decided to tap AFTER they were injured, not like Pierce who was yelling and tapping like crazy.
     
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    deadliest warrior is one thing but that video is made by someone on youtube using a stop watch probably not the best indicator of how long it really was when talking about fractions of a second. all you have to do is compare his subs to anyone elses and see he holds it longer. the prying i was talking about got Paulie cut for not letting go then.
     
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    He handily beat Pierce, who is AT LEAST a top twenty fighter. He may have gotten cut for holding the sub too long, but that other stuff is not reasonable. He is easily top 20 in WW, and probably a good runner for top 20 MW if he went back up.
     
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    Yeah, he hinted his decision in comments immediately after the fight.
     
  19. BJJesus

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    i hope they bring him back eventually because he beat pierce so easily i would really like to see what he can do at 170. I had pierce boarder line top 10 because all his losses were split decisions and i think he beat Kos.
     
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    It doesn't stop when the ref touches him...it stops when when one of Palhares' hands can be seen to be above his own shoulders, nowhere near pierce and has obviously released the hold. And the time on this is 1.08 seconds, not 1.8
     

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