Was Greg Hardy really that popular in American Football?

[High Altitude]

Never a superstar noterity wise, but the guy was all pro. He was really good, just not mainstream popular.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

jesus.

ok, you two enjoy each other

what is so hard to understand? Running and jumping are the two most basic forms of athleticism and the easiest to measure. Both sports require them equally and the data that is out there shows that NFL players are not only much better at both, but much deeper. I already posted the american college soccer players vs football players vertical jump. It's just a fact that better athletes are in football

 

[Johnny_Knuckles]

Skill position players are not bulky, and being tall does transfer well, it's just that other countries don't have tall people with athleticism

Yeah, a country not even in the top ten of tallest populations just happens to have all of the tall athletes, reasonable.

And no, it doesn’t, they’re not nimble, agile or quick enough, otherwise there’d be more goliaths in football that aren’t just centre backs and Peter Couch haha.

 

[skylolow]

He had a good run for a few years. But nothing over the top.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Yeah, a country not even in the top ten of tallest populations just happens to have all of the tall athletes, reasonable.

And no, it doesn’t, they’re not nimble, agile or quick enough, otherwise there’d be more goliaths in football that aren’t just centre backs and Peter Couch haha.

it may not be reasonable but it's true, only 25% of the NBA players are foreign born, why can't other countries, which account for millions more people playing basketball on equally competitive level as the US get more than 25%?

skill position players in football are not goliaths lol

 

[Johnny_Knuckles]

it may not be reasonable but it's true, only 25% of the NBA players are foreign born, why can't other countries, which account for millions more people playing basketball on equally competitive level as the US get more than 25%?

skill position players in football are not goliaths lol

Perhaps because the NBA is an American League and basketball is a big sport predominantly in America, that is why there are more Americans in the NBA, obviously.

Yes, a lot of people play basketball, but it isn’t anything like in America and is tiny compared to other sports around the world and America has been historically shit at exporting their sporting brands- re- NFL, NBA and MLB.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Perhaps because the NBA is an American League and basketball is a big sport predominantly in America, that is why there are more Americans in the NBA, obviously.

Yes, a lot of people play basketball, but it isn’t anything like in America and is tiny compared to other sports around the world and America has been historically shit at exporting their sporting brands- re- NFL, NBA and MLB.

OK so where are all of the 6'5+ elite athletes doing around other areas of the world? Not playing soccer or rugby or football or tennis or cricket, so where are they? You say they exist and US is not the only producer of big elite athletes, so where are they? I'm trying to help you figure out that you have no point and that I am correct, you are getting closer to realizing it through your own ridiculous conclusions without thinking.

 

[BigDramaShow26]

Greg Hardy is more well known than anyone on then UFC roster aside from Conor. But not for good reasons.

 

[Cojopi Extomino]

He pretty much owes 90% of his "fame and notoriety" to beating on a women.

It's kinda sad to think that if he didn't assault a woman, just left the NFL and tried MMA, he wouldn't be in the UFC right now. The only reason he's here is because the publicity he got from beating up a lady.

 

[BigDramaShow26]

Perhaps because the NBA is an American League and basketball is a big sport predominantly in America, that is why there are more Americans in the NBA, obviously.

Yes, a lot of people play basketball, but it isn’t anything like in America and is tiny compared to other sports around the world and America has been historically shit at exporting their sporting brands- re- NFL, NBA and MLB.

NFL yes. Baseball and Basketball are extremely popular in many other countries. Particularly Asia where NBA is arguably as popular as it is in america.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

He pretty much owes 90% of his "fame and notoriety" to beating on a women.

It's kinda sad to think that if he didn't assault a woman, just left the NFL and tried MMA, he wouldn't be in the UFC right now. The only reason he's here is because the publicity he got from beating up a lady.

not true any NFL player who made to the pro bowl and switched to UFC in their prime would be a big story. He's only here because he can't get a job in the NFL

 

[Cojopi Extomino]

not true any NFL player who made to the pro bowl and switched to UFC in their prime would be a big story. He's only here because he can't get a job in the NFL

Really? Any NFLer who made the pro-bowl and went to the UFC would be a "big story"? You sure?

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Really? Any NFLer who made the pro-bowl and went to the UFC would be a "big story"? You sure?

In their prime still? 100%

 

[Cojopi Extomino]

In their prime still? 100%

Where are you getting this "Greg Hardy is in his prime" bullshit from? Did you see what he looked like the last time he played football? Did you watch his fights? Suggesting "prime" means anything more than "the most success he's gonna have in this sport is right now" is a joke.

And no, if Justin Tucker decided he wanted to try MMA tomorrow, it wouldn't be anywhere near the story Hardy is, because there's no highly publicized assault case attached to his name.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Where are you getting this "Greg Hardy is in his prime" bullshit from? Did you see what he looked like the last time he played football? Did you watch his fights? Suggesting "prime" means anything more than "the most success he's gonna have in this sport is right now" is a joke.

And no, if Justin Tucker decided he wanted to try MMA tomorrow, it wouldn't be anywhere near the story Hardy is, because there's no highly publicized assault case attached to his name.

lol justin tucker would be a huge story, any Big 4 athlete leaving in their prime to go to UFC would be a national story.

in his prime means if he wasn't blackballed by the NFL he would still be playing there.

 

[Ken Fresno]

not true any NFL player who made to the pro bowl and switched to UFC in their prime would be a big story. He's only here because he can't get a job in the NFL

It's odd when people not from America are less informed about football than we are about soccer, when objectively the difference in entertainment value is laughable.

Of course any pro-bowler cage fighting would be a big deal. Especially the heavyweights.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

It's odd when people not from America are less informed about football than we are about soccer, when objectively the difference in entertainment value is laughable.

Of course any pro-bowler cage fighting would be a big deal. Especially the heavyweights.

I mean CM Punk is a huge story and he's not even an athlete and wasn't even in WWE for years leading up to his UFC run, not sure that guy understands popularity of NFL in the US

 

[SeattleFightFan]

Really? Any NFLer who made the pro-bowl and went to the UFC would be a "big story"? You sure?

In their prime still? 100%

it's a good question. would Jason Babin get to the UFC so quickly? he was an DB all pro, but few know his name.

a big name doesn't help a guy win UFC fights, but it sure helps him get UFC fights.

 

[Cojopi Extomino]

lol justin tucker would be a huge story, any Big 4 athlete leaving in their prime to go to UFC would be a national story.

in his prime means if he wasn't blackballed by the NFL he would still be playing there.

You can keep repeating this "in their prime" shit all you want, but Greg Hardy isn't in his prime. He didn't walk away from football in his prime. The last time he played football, he looked like half his former self. So if Justin Tucker started sucking and immediately went to MMA, no, it wouldn't be a big story. It'd be one headline that was forgotten in a week.

It's odd when people not from America are less informed about football than we are about soccer, when objectively the difference in entertainment value is laughable.

Of course any pro-bowler cage fighting would be a big deal. Especially the heavyweights.

It's odd when people think a guy speaking english with an American dialect isn't from America.

Greg Hardy without a highly publicized assault case attached to his name, would not be in the UFC right now.

 

[Cojopi Extomino]

I mean CM Punk is a huge story and he's not even an athlete and wasn't even in WWE for years leading up to his UFC run, not sure that guy understands popularity of NFL in the US

CM Punk had a built-in fanbase of merchandise buying kids, he's an actor, and having him fight in the UFC was a joke. Not even remotely comparable situations.