Was Aoki good?

At his top, he was ranked the nr 2 guy in the world, only behind BJ Peen. I'd say that establishes him as "good".

http://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/6/Sherdog-Official-Mixed-Martial-Arts-Rankings-16897

Lightweight

1. B.J. Penn (13-5-1)
With his Greasegate protests now seemingly behind him, Penn has accepted the offer to defend his UFC 155-pound crown against Kenny Florian at UFC 101 on Aug. 8, in a long overdue lightweight matchup.

2. Shinya Aoki (20-4, 1 NC)
Shinya Aoki was keen to avenge his August 2005 loss to Hayato "Mach" Sakurai, as he stepped back up to the welterweight division on April 5 for Dream. Instead, Aoki lasted only 27 seconds, as he was brutally destroyed by a belt of Sakurai knees and punches.

3. Eddie Alvarez (16-2)
After overcoming an early scare, Alvarez got a comeback victory under his belt and opened the Bellator Fighting Championships’ lightweight tournament in style, notching a first-round submission over Greg Loughran on April 3.

4. Joachim Hansen (19-7-1)
Despite the attention given to his New Year’s Eve rematch with Gesias “JZ” Cavalcante, the bout was nixed at the last minute when a pre-fight medical test revealed an undisclosed head injury to Hansen.

5. Gesias Cavalcante (14-2-1, 1 NC)
With his New Year's Eve scrap with Joachim Hansen getting nixed at the last minute, "JZ" will finally get into the ring with a stalwart opponent, as he'll take on Tatsuya Kawajiri at Dream 9 on May 26.

6. Sean Sherk (33-3-1)
Sherk’s quest toward regaining the UFC lightweight title will continue at UFC 98 on May 23, when “The Muscle Shark” will take on fellow dynamic wrestler Frank Edgar. Sherk has won 16 of 18 fights.

7. Kenny Florian (11-3)
Florian won't have to wait much longer for his second crack at the UFC's lightweight title, as champion B.J. Penn has accepted to face "Ken Flo" at UFC 101 in August.

8. Satoru Kitaoka (24-8-9)
Kitaoka is expected to make the first defense of his Sengoku lightweight title in August, but as a Pancrase torchbearer, the powerhouse grappler has chosen to make a stopover in his old stomping grounds for a June 7 tune-up.

9. Josh Thomson (16-2, 1 NC)
Injury has struck Strikeforce's champion yet again, as a broken leg suffered in training will nix his slated April 11 rematch with the man he took that title from, Gilbert Melendez.

10. Gray Maynard (7-0, 1 NC)
Maynard turned in his fifth straight victory inside the Octagon at UFC 96 in March, battering a serious fighter in Jim Miller over three dominant rounds to claim his place in these rankings.

Other contenders: Tatsuya Kawajiri, Gilbert Melendez, Jim Miller, Eiji Mitsuoka, Jamie Varner.

*With the entry of Gray Maynard, formerly No. 10 ranked Tatsuya Kawajiri falls outside the top-10.
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Gambit MMA said:
eh, kinda. hellboy would have been barely top 10 if he was in the ufc ranks. but in terms of outside ufc he was def a top guy.
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BJ, Sean Sherk, Maynard and Edgar would have beaten him, and maybe Florian, Diego and Miller (though he would probably have been the favorite vs Maynard and Edgar considering what unknown quantities they were at the time). The rest? Spencer Fisher, Tyson Griffin, Marc Bocek, Joe Stevenson, Hermes Franca, No Love, Siver. He could definitively have beaten guys like that.

Hell, he might have even beaten Sherk considering this was about the time he started falling in love with his (poor) boxing.
 
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Gambit MMA said:
eh, kinda. hellboy would have been barely top 10 if he was in the ufc ranks. but in terms of outside ufc he was def a top guy.
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when Diego Sanchez was #1 contender for sure Hellboy Kawajiri Eddie Alvarez etc would've "barely" made top 10 lmao

UFC LW division was shit before it absorbed Strikeforce, like most of their divisions were
 
He has some decent wins, biggest probably being Eddie Alvarez. I'd say he was pretty good, but probably wouldn't have won a UFC championship.
 
Vegeta12 said:
He has some decent wins, biggest probably being Eddie Alvarez. I'd say he was pretty good, but probably wouldn't have won a UFC championship.
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Well, BJ was pretty much a nightmare match-up for him, so it seems rather unlikely.
 
Aoki beat Kawajiri who beat Thomson who beat Diaz who beat McGregor

Checkmate UFC herbs
 
FrontNakedChoke said:
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europe1 said:
Well, BJ was pretty much a nightmare match-up for him, so it seems rather unlikely.
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Totally. Even in 2012 when he fought Eddie again(and lost) in Bellator, probably wouldn't have given Benson or Frankie any trouble.
 
Gambit MMA said:
not really. he could sub. dudes who couldnt wrestle for shit cuz he got them on the ground. weak as hell, no striking and hes got a weak chin

aside from that heel hook win over eddie (who made a mistake that fight) he hasnt beaten anybody really.
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ah no more hespect to Caol Uno, Joachim Hansen, Gesias Cavalcante etc...
 
gono btw said:
ah no more hespect to Caol Uno, Joachim Hansen, Gesias Cavalcante etc...
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those guys would have gotten whipped in ufc. sherk wrestles all of them to death. florian beats all of them etc.
 
lukeuidswords said:
when Diego Sanchez was #1 contender for sure Hellboy Kawajiri Eddie Alvarez etc would've "barely" made top 10 lmao

UFC LW division was shit before it absorbed Strikeforce, like most of their divisions were
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lol, diego just got the TS. he was never #1. at that time u had penn, florian, edgar and maynard on the rise

even tyson griffin would work aoki. dude would get knocked the fuck out in the ufc
 
Gambit MMA said:
not really. he could sub. dudes who couldnt wrestle for shit cuz he got them on the ground. weak as hell, no striking and hes got a weak chin

aside from that heel hook win over eddie (who made a mistake that fight) he hasnt beaten anybody really.
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Hellboy, JZ, Uno, Hirota, Kawajiri, Clementi, Beerbohm, Razor Rob, McKee, Aurelio, Shaolin, Kitaoka are all "somebody."
 
beastman said:
Hellboy, JZ, Uno, Hirota, Kawajiri, Clementi, Beerbohm, Razor Rob, McKee, Aurelio, Shaolin, Kitaoka are all "somebody."
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would all get worked in the ufc. mckee lost a decision to volkmann and was cut right after lol, dude could only wrestle cans to death. says a lot when he tapped to strikes against AOKI of all people

look what happened when even omigawa came to ufc, he didnt do jack shit. lost fights and then was gone
 
Gambit MMA said:
would all get worked in the ufc. mckee lost a decision to volkmann and was cut right after lol, dude could only wrestle cans to death. says a lot when he tapped to strikes against AOKI of all people

look what happened when even omigawa came to ufc, he didnt do jack shit. lost fights and then was gone
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Aoki was much better than Omigawa.

Would all get worked in the UFC, haha, most have wins in the UFC or beat UFC vets....
 
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