War Room Lounge v161: Shoot her in good conscience.... she had a long run

[Fawlty]

Cheers to @Cajun for the thread title

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[tonni]

So do you guys come here often?

 

[Sketch]

So do you guys come here often?

I dunno lol

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

Bollocks , I was cut off mid post

 

[tonni]

I dunno lol

Haha alright. do you have like hobbies

 

[Anung Un Rama]

1st

 

[Sketch]

Haha alright. do you have like hobbies

Yeah Man U?

 

[tonni]

Yeah Man U?

you betcha

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

The whole Luka Doncic thing made me look up Slovenia on Wiki. Much richer country than I would have guessed.

Appears the average Slovenian has higher GDP per capita than the average african-american in the U.S.A. does. And on purchasing power parity the Slovenians are even better off.

the whole racial slur with power dynamic must get quite interesting with many layers when it comes to minorities calling each other names, and in the LDGBTQ2+ community, if like a L calls a T a F@G, is it a slur cuz Ls are less oppressed than Ts? And how do the 2's compare to the B's?

If Dirk Nowitzki called Doncic the same, would it be a slur because of how Germany violated all sorts of Slavs back in the day? But then, what if Dirk was half German and half Slovenian?

Feels like the best solution is to simply not point out one's skin color or heritage or orientation when insulting them.

 

[Trotsky]

There's a Tito & Chuck 30 for 30?

Why?

1. Neither of the first two fights were remotely competitive
2. The third fight was completely meaningless
3. Chuck is boring and Tito is one of the most unlikable, annoying, and dumb humans ever

I mean, I guess it was the first rivalry that was popular in the US mainstream. Now that I think of it, though, there really hasn't been any truly great MMA rivalries like the great ones in boxing like Ali/Frazier or Pac/JMM

 

[Cajun]

@tonni @Limbo Pete @AnGrYcRoW. Do you guys ever sleep?

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

There's a Tito & Chuck 30 for 30?

Why?

1. Neither of the first two fights were remotely competitive
2. The third fight was completely meaningless
3. Chuck is boring and Tito is one of the most unlikable, annoying, and dumb humans ever

I mean, I guess it was the first rivalry that was popular in the US mainstream. Now that I think of it, though, there really hasn't been any truly great MMA rivalries like the great ones in boxing like Ali/Frazier or Pac/JMM

Penn had some good rivalries with Hughes and GSP. But again, then you’ve got a boring guy and a couple douches. And I say that as someone who loves Hughes and Penn.

Jones and Cormier. And again... lol

 

[Trotsky]

The whole Luka Doncic thing made me look up Slovenia on Wiki. Much richer country than I would have guessed.

Appears the average Slovenian has higher GDP per capita than the average african-american in the U.S.A. does. And on purchasing power parity the Slovenians are even better off.

the whole racial slur with power dynamic must get quite interesting with many layers when it comes to minorities calling each other names, and in the LDGBTQ2+ community, if like a L calls a T a F@G, is it a slur cuz Ls are less oppressed than Ts? And how do the 2's compare to the B's?

If Dirk Nowitzki called Doncic the same, would it be a slur because of how Germany violated all sorts of Slavs back in the day? But then, what if Dirk was half German and half Slovenian?

Feels like the best solution is to simply not point out one's skin color or heritage or orientation when insulting them.

Calling anyone that is a slur, but I'm not sure it lands that heavily since the slur is primarily used to refer to a gay man, not a transgender man. However, yes, if a gay man calls a transgender man a He-She, it's just as much of a slur as if a straight man says it.

I don't think the power dynamic is as relevant as the historical usage. A German white guy calling a Slovenian white guy a "white boy" doesn't represent or entail any historical dehumanization. They're both white. But him calling Doncic a slur for Slavs wouldn't be any less offensive just because Dirk is closer to him in complexion than a black guy: and it might in fact be more offensive if there's a history of Germans using the term to disparage Slavs but there isn't such a history for African Americans.

Anyways, the equation of "white boy" to the N-word was always silly. A closer comparison would be h***y. "White boy" was never really a hateful term, and it actually seems to have become most common in "post-racial" popular culture in depictions of white guys participating in or trying to emulate black culture (like Malibu's Most Wanted or White Men Can't Jump).

 

[Trotsky]

Penn had some good rivalries with Hughes and GSP. But again, then you’ve got a boring guy and a couple douches. And I say that as someone who loves Hughes and Penn.

Jones and Cormier. And again... lol

Yeah, those are the guys I thought of too. But, even with their personalities (Penn and GSP have some charisma), the fight quality isn't there since GSP routed Hughes in their second and third fights and routed Penn in their second. You need some back and forth between the second and third fights imo. So the Penn / Hughes one is the best.

Best ones in terms of fight quality and personalities imo:

Frank Shamrock / Bas Rutten
BJ Penn / Matt Hughes
Sakuraba / Gracie Family

 

[JDragon]

Yeah, those are the guys I thought of too. But, even with their personalities (Penn and GSP have some charisma), the fight quality isn't there since GSP routed Hughes in their second and third fights and routed Penn in their second. You need some back and forth between the second and third fights imo. So the Penn / Hughes one is the best.

Best ones in terms of fight quality and personalities imo:

Frank Shamrock / Bas Rutten
BJ Penn / Matt Hughes
Sakuraba / Gracie Family

Hughes/Trigg

Kinda to your point

 

[Limbo Pete]

@tonni @Limbo Pete @AnGrYcRoW. Do you guys ever sleep?

Occasionally

 

[Danger Dave]

Occasionally

Occasionally he knocks himself out. The only person that can put Mark Hunt to sleep is Mark Hunt.

 

[Danger Dave]

I have 2 choices. I either read Limbo Petes spoiler alert which is extremelly long or i eat these delicious quesadillas i just made and watch community.

 

[JDragon]

I have 2 choices. I either read Limbo Petes spoiler alert which is extremelly long or i eat these delicious quesadillas i just made and watch community.

That's 1 choice among 2 options.

 

[tonni]

@tonni @Limbo Pete @AnGrYcRoW. Do you guys ever sleep?

Yeah between 22:00 and 04:00 definitely some sleep.