War Room Lounge v151: Between drinking and burning, I don't need another vice in my life.

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Limbo Pete said:
Ruprecht down there flashin a whale tail
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There's a reason they're only sold in pairs here.

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BEER said:
You live in the land that is often described as producing the best beer in the world, which is patently false.

And I don't want to spend the entire encounter arguing about beer with you.
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Don't you dare talk shit about about Fruli.
 
This is getting crazy
After AOC decries statue, Hawaiian Catholic says St Damien of Molokai 'gave his life' serving lepers
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...of-molokai-gave-his-life-serving-lepers-79484

Washington, D.C. Newsroom, Jul 31, 2020 / 01:28 pm MT (CNA).-

A Hawaiian Catholic catechist said that St. Damien of Molokai is a “hero” to the Hawaiian people, after a prominent congresswoman claimed the statue honoring him in the U.S. Capitol is part of colonialism and “patriarchy and white supremacist culture.”

St. Damien “gave his life” serving the isolated leper colony at Kalaupapa peninsula on the Hawaiian island of Molokai, said Dallas Carter, a native Hawaiian and a catechist for the diocese of Honolulu, in an interview with CNA.

“Any Hawaiian here who is aware of their history--which most Hawaiians are--would absolutely, Catholic or not, defend the legacy of Damien as a man who was embraced by the people, and who is a hero to us because of his love for the Hawaiian people,” Carter said.

“We did not judge him by the color of his skin. We judged him by the love that he had for our people,” Carter told CNA.

In an Instagram story on Thursday, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) asked why there were not more statues honoring women historical figures, at the U.S. Capitol’s National Statuary Hall Collection. The collection includes statues honoring historical figures from all 50 states, which are chosen by the states and sent by them to Congress for display.

“Even when we select figures to tell the stories of colonized places, it is the colonizers and settlers whose stories are told – and virtually no one else,” Ocasio-Cortez posted, with a picture of Fr. Damien’s U.S. Capitol statue in the background.

In 1969, Hawaii chose to honor St. Damien alongside Kamehameha I in the National Statuary Hall Collection in the U.S. Capitol.



Ocasio-Cortez noted on Thursday that Hawaii’s statue was of Fr. Damien and not of “Queen Lili’uokalani of Hawaii, the only Queen Regnant of Hawaii,” implying that it was an example of “colonizers” being honored instead of historical figures who are native to states.

“This isn’t to litigate each and every individual statue,” she said, arguing that “patterns” among the “totality” of the statues in the Capitol reveal they honor “virtually all men, all white, and mostly both.”

“This is what patriarchy and white supremacist culture looks like!” Ocasio-Cortez said. “It’s not radical or crazy to understand the influence white supremacist culture has historically had in our overall culture & how it impacts the present day.”

Ocasio-Cortez’s office told CNA that "it’s the patterns that have emerged among all of the statues in the Capitol: virtually all white men. Each individual could be worthy, moral people. But the deliberate erasure of women and people of color from our history is a result of the influence of patriarchy and white supremacy."

Her office later added that "Fr. Damien conducted acts of great good, and his is a story worth telling. It is still worthy for us to examine from a US history perspective why a non-Hawaiian, non-American was chosen as the statue to represent Hawaii in the Capitol over other Hawaiian natives who conducted great acts of good, and why so few women and people of color are represented in Capitol statues at all."

St. Damien of Molokai was a religious priest of the Congregation of the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary who spent the last 16 years of his life caring for lepers in the Hawaiian Kingdom.

He was born Jozef De Veuster in Belgium in 1840, and he entered the Picpus Fathers in 1859, taking the name Damien. He was sent to the mission in Hawaii in 1864, and was ordained a priest that May.

Shortly after that, the Hawaiian government and King Kamehameha V passed a law mandating that lepers quarantine themselves in an isolated colony on the island of Molokai. The local bishop asked for volunteers to minister to the leper colony, and Fr. Damien presented himself, beginning his work there in 1873.

Carter noted that the Hawaiian government of the time “did not know how to deal with leprosy,” and that “no one wanted to deal with Kalaupapa [colony].”

Damien himself was afraid to go and minister to the lepers, Carter said, but “over a period of time—his journal is very clear, and the writings of the Hawaiian people in that town are very clear—that he fell in love with the people.”



Eventually, Damien was given an ultimatum by his religious superior to either leave the colony or remain there permanently. He chose to stay.

The priest served the colony for the rest of his life, attending to both spiritual and temporal needs of the lepers. By 1884 he had contracted leprosy, and he continued to minister until his death in 1889.

St. Damien is beloved by native Hawaiians, Carter said, and then-princess Lili’uokalani—who Cortez implied should be given a statue instead of Damien—made Fr. Damien a Knight Commander of the Royal Order of Kalākaua in 1881, for his “efforts in alleviating the distresses and mitigating the sorrows of the unfortunate.”

Damien is also the only priest-saint in the Hawaiian martyrology “that spoke the native Hawaiian language,” Carter said. “He loved the Hawaiian people, he embraced our culture,” he said, and in turn “he was part of our kingdom. He was one of us.”

The priest was canonized Oct. 11, 2009 by Pope Benedict XVI, who said that “his missionary activity, which gave him such joy, reached its peak in charity.”

On the occasion of the canonization, U.S. president Barack Obama expressed his “deep admiration for the life of Blessed Damien De Veuster.”

“Fr. Damien has also earned a special place in the hearts of Hawaiians. I recall many stories from my youth about his tireless work there to care for those suffering from leprosy who had been cast out,” Obama, who was born on the Hawaiian island of Oahu, said.

“Following in the steps of Jesus' ministry to the lepers, Fr. Damien challenged the stigmatizing effects of disease, giving voice to the voiceless and, ultimately, sacrificing his own life to bring dignity to so many.”
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also if you ever see the play Damien I recommend it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damien_(play)
 
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AnGrYcRoW said:
Seeing as how it looks like there is going to be something resembling a football season , is anyone interested in doing a lounge FF league ?
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We’ve got a lounge fantasy football leauge from last year with 10 teams that we’d love to turn into 12. You can definitely have a spot if you’d wish
 
tonni said:
Fact: EVERY protest has government instigators/spooks in them.
Another fact is that most if not all major left wing movements/groups have FBI/government spies in them.
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The first thing is something that most people who have ever attended a denonstration/protest in their lives probably are aware of or have witnessed. Often I think this is something that just helps riot police get their fix in violence, but obviously it might also help police to identfy individuals acting out of a black bloc.

Regarding the second part, I'd argue the same is true for right-wing movements. The difference (just from my Euro view, not backed up by sufficient empirical data) is that often, right-wing groups are full of informants, but these folks usually are real right-wing extremists who just take the extra money. With left-wing groups, there seems to be more gross undercover shit.
 
One of the rules of Roadhouse is to be nice

also:
 
Mandatory viewing for people who care about living in a free society


 
AgonyandIrony said:
Just found out Crystal Castles is Canadian and that's pretty rad.

There's something so so good about this song.

When he said it got to -4°F I about pissed myself. Literally how do you survive when it gets that cold?
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That's not so bad temperature wise. A nice jacket and sweater should see you through comfortably.

As for the long nights in the winter, Montreal is only at 45 degrees north, so those aren't bad either. Edmonton is at 53, by comparison. That's a terrible, horrible place to live.
 
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