Social War Room Lounge Thread #323 Just go back to feudalism at this point

[Mr Holmes]

After 100 years of football y'all finally have a promising QB so at least there's something to look forward to in the next year or two, maybe.

They said the same with Fields

 

[Sara]

Just checking but is there any truth behind Kamala not knowing that there ARE troops still deployed in war zones? I mean I keep seeing vids off troops watching her say that then asking where the duck are we then?

 

[Mr Holmes]

Just checking but is there any truth behind Kamala not knowing that there ARE troops still deployed in war zones? I mean I keep seeing vids off troops watching her say that then asking where the duck are we then?

She probably just messed up one of her memorized talking points.

 

[Sakuraba'sEar]

Just checking but is there any truth behind Kamala not knowing that there ARE troops still deployed in war zones? I mean I keep seeing vids off troops watching her say that then asking where the duck are we then?

They could playing a game of semantics with what's considered deployed to an active warzone and what is not. Regardless, we have troops that participate in "active" warzones nearly every week

 

[Sara]

She probably just messed up one of her memorized talking points.

They could playing a game of semantics with what's considered deployed to an active warzone and what is not. Regardless, we have troops that participate in "active" warzones nearly every week

I feel it’s something she should know (if it wasn’t fake and it is hard to know now says what’s fake)

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Kanye West performs in China after rare approval by country’s censors​

Flow of foreign artists to China has slowed to a trickle, but economic pressures could be forcing authorities to rethink

Kanye West performs in China after rare approval by country’s censors​

Flow of foreign artists to China has slowed to a trickle, but economic pressures could be forcing authorities to rethink

Helen Davidson in Taipei
Mon 16 Sep 2024 10.53 BST
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When Ye, the artist formerly known as Kanye West, took to the stage in Haikou on Sunday, his Chinese fans could barely believe it. One of the biggest and most controversial foreign acts in the world had been allowed in by China’s notoriously censorious regime.
Ye’s only China show – all the more surprising for skipping big cities in lieu of the holiday island of Hainan – was announced just days earlier, and more than 42,000 tickets sold out within minutes. It was his first time back in the country for 16 years. In that time the Chinese government’s tolerance for western musicians has diminished, while Ye’s reputation for controversy has grown.

The Communist party strictly censors domestic publications, performances and social media postings. It also controls the flow of art and content from foreign producers hoping to tap the lucrative market of 1.4 billion Chinese people.

Chinese authorities will often require foreign artists to submit set lists and song lyrics before getting approval to tour – and even then acts are often unsuccessful. Under the rule of Xi Jinping the flow of visiting talent has become a trickle – fewer than 40 non-Chinese movies receive approval each year, and few of the biggest musical tourers of recent years – such as Billie Eilish, Coldplay and Taylor Swift – have included a stop in China. In 2017, Justin Bieber was barred from China because of his reputation as a “badly behaved entertainer”. In 2016, Lady Gaga’s entire repertoire was reportedly banned after she met the Dalai Lama.

The decision to allow Ye to perform raised eyebrows inside China, although many noted his year living in Nanjing as a child while his mother taught at a university. A string of incidents including antisemitic comments, suggestions that slavery in America was a choice made by Black people and his endorsement of Donald Trump are among reasons that fans and brands have cut ties with Ye.

Those incidents, as well as his long-running feud with Swift and sexist themes in his song lyrics, were all cited by social media users in China, incredulous that Ye’s show was approved.

Haikou city authorities reportedly received several complaints about the themes of Ye’s work and his history of controversial and offensive statements. One letter – attributed to a Swift fan group but not confirmed by the Guardian – said that Ye’s “lyrics and public behaviour do not meet the standard of cultural and artistic activities in China, and may have a negative impact on society”.

Ye’s name and the show announcement had more than 160m interactions on Weibo in the last few days. One hashtag specifically about his event being approved by the authorities received more than 1.7m, many of them asking simply: “How?”
One commenter said: “The government must regret not bringing in Taylor Swift’s concert, and is using Kanye West to make up for the regret.”

China’s economy is struggling amid a property crisis, youth unemployment and low retail spending, but statistics show a rising domestic demand for live entertainment and an increasing willingness to travel for it. More than 90% of the tickets sold to Ye’s gig went to people who lived outside Hainan province. Regions like Hainan, which rely heavily on the tourism and entertainment industries, appear increasingly frustrated by missing out on big international tours.

In July, government advisers in Shanghai said they wished they could bring in the “walking GDP” of artists such as Swift more easily.
“This is the largest and highest-grossing personal concert tour in history, having generated over US$5bn in consumer spending so far” the advisers’ article, published on the Shanghai municipal government’s WeChat account, said, referring to Swift’s Eras tour.

Ye had been scheduled to perform in Taiwan, but less than a month ago organisers announced the show had been cancelled because of “unforeseen circumstances”. It was not clear if those circumstances were related to the apparently last-minute approval to play in China, where the government claims Taiwan as a province and strongly objects to any act that legitimises its sovereignty.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2...china-after-rare-approval-by-countrys-censors

 

[Yorick]

Just checking but is there any truth behind Kamala not knowing that there ARE troops still deployed in war zones? I mean I keep seeing vids off troops watching her say that then asking where the duck are we then?

She wants to “turn the page” on being informed, intelligent and relevant apparently.

 

[BAM]

They said the same with Fields

The prospects are fine, it's the organisation that's trash.

 

[koquerelle]

Too funny.

Mad respect for Singh.

“I got picked on a lot in school and got myself into a lot of fights. For self-confidence and probably for some self-defense, my parents put me into martial arts and I loved it. I found the discipline, training, bodybuilding, skill development, and just learning something new to be exciting. I started martial arts when I was about nine-years old and have been training in one form or another ever since. I started off with Taekwondo and some Akido. I did a lot of wrestling in high school. Later on, I did traditional boxing and Muay Thai. I did a lot of striking, but my specialty was grappling so fighting around wrestling, Jiu Jitsu, and Judo was my main focus.”

 

[Andy Capp]

Too funny.

Mad respect for Singh.

“I got picked on a lot in school and got myself into a lot of fights. For self-confidence and probably for some self-defense, my parents put me into martial arts and I loved it. I found the discipline, training, bodybuilding, skill development, and just learning something new to be exciting. I started martial arts when I was about nine-years old and have been training in one form or another ever since. I started off with Taekwondo and some Akido. I did a lot of wrestling in high school. Later on, I did traditional boxing and Muay Thai. I did a lot of striking, but my specialty was grappling so fighting around wrestling, Jiu Jitsu, and Judo was my main focus.”

I know I wouldn't start a fight with the guy lol and that was before I found out he trains on top of just being a big mofo.

 

[koquerelle]

I know I wouldn't start a fight with the guy lol and that was before I found out he trains on top of just being a big mofo.

I'm so tired of clowns talking shit to politicians for likes. You have an opportunity to talk with them and you can't be civilized for 30 seconds?

"If it was me I'd admit it."

I hope they identify the turd and shame him.

 

[Andy Capp]

I'm so tired of clowns talking shit to politicians for likes. You have an opportunity to talk with them and you can't be civilized for 30 seconds?

"If it was me I'd admit it."

I hope they identify the turd and shame him.

Stuff like this is why it would be just as foolish for Singh to force an election anytime before it's required by law as it would be for Trudeau. These people can't help themselves. They are not really much different from Trump and his supporters. The longer they campaign like that the more harm it will do until the Liberals and NDP are back in contention to hold power again.

I feel like this reasoning is where Trudeau's bluster and outward display of confidence is rooted.

The so-called Supply and Confidence Agreement was a nice idealistic tack but it was a strategic and tactical error politically. Singh should have abandoned it months ago. Unfortunately, liberals, whether in the US or Canada, are absolutely shitty at making the public aware of their successes. Singh counted on being able to trumpet about the agreement's successes but sadly, people in general are dumb and it's hard to get them to listen, let alone give the government credit for anything.

Now, he's been forced into it in an attempt to distance himself from Trudeau and to appear a viable candidate in his own right in the coming election. The only hope they have now is to draw support from both the Liberals and Conservatives and that's a tall order. On the other hand, the parallels between Biden's and Trudeau's lack of popularity stick out like a sore thumb, leading me to be quite sure that if he would only step aside the Liberals would have as good a chance in the next election as they had in the last.

 

[TeTe]

Wow, Fed cut 50 bps today, didn't think that they were going to that high.

 

[Andy Capp]

Wow, Fed cut 50 bps today, didn't think that they were going to that high.

Here in Canada they've cut the prime rate by 25 every month for the last 3 and there's another cut expected next month. Whether the US rate change is a response to that, I don't know, but it's pretty clear both economies have gotten inflation under control and now they're worried about slowing the economy too much, as they already did in this country.

 

[Mr Holmes]

I'm so tired of clowns talking shit to politicians for likes. You have an opportunity to talk with them and you can't be civilized for 30 seconds?

"If it was me I'd admit it."

I hope they identify the turd and shame him.

It was him, right? If you're going to run your mouth you should own it. The guy wasn't going to do anything.

 

[My Spot]

@Deorum

And it did.

 

[Sara]

Too funny.

Mad respect for Singh.

“I got picked on a lot in school and got myself into a lot of fights. For self-confidence and probably for some self-defense, my parents put me into martial arts and I loved it. I found the discipline, training, bodybuilding, skill development, and just learning something new to be exciting. I started martial arts when I was about nine-years old and have been training in one form or another ever since. I started off with Taekwondo and some Akido. I did a lot of wrestling in high school. Later on, I did traditional boxing and Muay Thai. I did a lot of striking, but my specialty was grappling so fighting around wrestling, Jiu Jitsu, and Judo was my main focus.”

What’d the guy say to him?

 

[koquerelle]

What’d the guy say to him?

The douchebag called him a "corrupted bastard".

 

[Cajun]

I know I wouldn't start a fight with the guy lol and that was before I found out he trains on top of just being a big mofo.

a name like Jagmeet? Better leave him alone imo

 

[Cajun]

The douchebag called him "corrupted bastard".

well....is he?