War on men - Feminism's lies and brainwashing

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  1. MMAgirlie

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    It has been said that 70% of American women do not associated with feminism in this day and age. Sounds crazy, doesn't it? Third Wave Feminism claims to not just be about women any more, but wants equality for all groups, men included. It claims to have an interest in the rights of men as well as women, and actively seeks to pursue those rights. Why then this turning away from feminism, even by women? Well, it's quite simple really - most of it is utter BS, and the movement is more propaganda campaign, a systematic form of bullying people out of "undesirable" political leanings, and a quest for privilege.

    But wait girlie, how could you say such a thing? Do you have any reason for thinking such? Well, let's start.

    First off, I mentioned bullying, right? Recently the Canadian Association for Equality did something daring - they put on a conference and let a respected academic present a paper called “What’s Equality Got To Do With It? Men’s Issues and Feminism’s Double Standards." At least, that was the plan... A group of motivated young feminists keen to protect women's rights - we call them thugs when they aren't part of a popular, politically correct movement - showed up. They dubbed the speech "hate speech" and proceeded to be loud, disruptive, and obnoxious to make sure that woman's paper would not be heard. To them, the mere thought of talking about men's rights and injustices done to men is so offensive, so threatening, that they needed to bring bloody air horns in to make sure that the woman presenting would not be heard. Anyone who dared confront them about it? "RAPIST! WOMAN HATER! BIGOT!"

    http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...girls-dont-want-to-call-themselves-feminists/

    That's some "equality" for you, eh? Watch the video and have a good laugh at those "social justice" crusaders doing what they've been brainwashed to think is right.

    Did I mention statistics? I'm sure you've seen them. President Obama spouting the 1 in 5 women will be raped, 14 million rapes last year, 77 cents on the dollar for every man earned... Sounds terrifying, right? Well, they would be if they were even close to bloody true.

    Sexual assault:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNsJ1DhqQ-s&list=PLytTJqkSQqtr7BqC1Jf4nv3g2yDfu7Xmd

    DO NOT trust the numbers you hear. They are inflated to over 10 times the official department of justice numbers based on, what? Some good feminists research - a phone survey which considers having a drink and then having sex being raped(intoxicated, can't give consent) or having sex under false pretenses (you're the only girl I'll ever want! - sexual assault, since she was lied to). Remember, if you had sex with your wife after she had a few glasses of wine, you are part of those terrifying statistics you're hearing on TV, and those statistics are being used to motivate the formation of laws. Do you really want laws in place, putting people in jail, based on such utter tripe that actually flies in the face of actual Department of Justice statistics on the subject, inflating the number over 10x past those of the DOJ?

    How about false rape?

    http://straightstatistics.org/article/crying-rape-falsely-rare-or-common
    http://straightstatistics.org/article/how-panic-over-rape-was-orchestrated

    You'll hear the feminist narrative spout the number "less than 2% of rape claims are false" - based on a single study done in a single police department in the 70's. The reality? We don't know, but *vast* amounts of research put the number anywhere between that 2% and upwards of 50%. Of course, the only number they'll tell you is the one that supports their political mantra of "WE ARE THE VICTIM SO GIVE US THINGS!"

    How about equal pay?

    77 cents on the dollar, eh? The way they present it, when a woman gets hired, the employer is likely to say "Well, we got a broad here - let's save some money and pay her less!" Bullcrap.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58arQIr882w&list=PLytTJqkSQqtr7BqC1Jf4nv3g2yDfu7Xmd

    Multiple studies have shown that when you account for factors like seniority, time taken off work, overtime worked, and even something that seems as simple as working different jobs are factored in, the pay gap almost disappears outside of the choices made by the people in question. What does this mean? It means that when a woman leaves work two hours early to pick up her kids and a man stays behind at the same job to make up for what she shouldn't do, feminist rhetoric says that she
    should make as much as him. When "full time" for a man means working 42 hours a week all year long and "full time" for a woman means working 35, the legal minimum for full time as these statistics are concerned, they should be paid the same despite a 7 hour difference per week. When a woman goes into teaching and a man becomes a high risk coal miner, she should make the same as he does or it's gender discrimination. When a man has been working at a factory for 20 years and has tremendous seniority, if he gets paid more than a female summer student who just showed up and works across from him it's discrimination. To them, every legitimate choice that a woman makes which costs her career advancement *really* shows that they are being discriminated against on a systemic level - that the bad, evil men pay them less just because they are women, not because they are being compared to a man who has been in the factory 20 years longer and works a half an hour more every day.

    The study on which the 77 cents figured is based is quite literally a US census that shows nothing but average pay for people, accounting for *nothing* beyond average pay - not what job worked, not seniority, not who takes more time off, not who negotiated for better pay - nothing. In short? The statistic is misleading at best, and it is being used as proof of wide scale sexual discrimination.

    http://malemattersusa.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/the-doctrinaire-institute-for-womens-policy-research/

    People have it in their heads that there is a war on women, that society is out to get them. Maybe true, to some extent - there are ways in which women are discriminated against in society today. The thing is, there are *lots* of ways in which men are discriminated against in society today as well, but can we talk about them? No, the people who do - even female academics like in the first article - are shouted down by crazed feminist thugs. We are caught up in a system of systemic brainwashing over "the patriarchy" puffed up by bogus statistics and supported by truth-shaming feminist thugs, all of which results in a system where we are quite comfortable in discrimination against over half the population in myriad ways. It isn't that there isn't discrimination against women, it's that we are not even allowed to *admit* that there is discrimination against men.

    There is a war on men every bit as much as a war on women, but we are brainwashed and bullied into not even admitting that there is such a war by radical lying feminists claiming that they are only interested in equality, using false statistics to manufacture a hysteria about gross injustices done to women that don't even exists. Do not buy their BS, and be aware.

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    Oh, and mods, if you delete this thread, could you please PM me to let me know which rule I am breaking? Thanks. I checked the rules and as far as I could tell, I'm not violating any of them.

    Edit: Further links for your interest

    Rape Epidemic False:
    http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs...istics-dont-back-up-claims-about-rape-culture
    http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/29/w...cts-wrong-threatens-freedom/?advD=1248,352027

    Recent effort to "make campuses safe" for women denies due process to men, including government bullying to make it happen:
    http://chronicle.com/article/In-Making-Campuses-Safe-for/127766/
    http://www.saveservices.org/2014/04/the-white-house-joins-the-war-on-men/
    http://www.aei-ideas.org/2014/04/ho...:+aei-ideas/carpe-diem+(AEIdeas+»+Carpe+Diem)


    Pay gap BS:
    http://social.dol.gov/blog/myth-busting-the-pay-gap/
    http://www.theatlantic.com/business...iggest-myth-about-the-gender-wage-gap/276367/

    Domestic violence stats "fabricated," ignoring violence against men, ballooning violence VS women:
    http://reason.com/archives/2014/02/22/are-domestic-violence-statistics-bogus

    Obama/Federal Government using false statistics to push political agenda and create environment of false victimhood:
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obama-promotes-society-helpless-victims-093000311.html
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-on-the-wage-gap-gets-a-new-pinocchio-rating/

    AAUW - hardcore feminist - report on government census which shows that most of the pay gap is explained away by non-discriminatory criteria:
    http://www.aauw.org/article/the-simple-truth-about-the-simple-truth/


    Even hardcore feminist source Jezebel admits that female soldiers have less exacting physical standards for same positions:
    http://jezebel.com/5876787/should-lady-marines-get-a-break

    Woman sues Chicago fire department because she couldn't pass same test as men for entry - therefore, discrimination:
    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...ers-physical-abilities-test-firefighter-exams
     
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  2. Tropodan

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    Another great showing by Christina Hoff Sommers on the JRE. Her politeness, critical thought, and Intellectual honest is kryptonite to radical feminism. This is a great discussion.

     
  3. LogicalInsanity

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    In before Atheist faps all over this thread.
     
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    Stoic1 Boogaloo Time

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    Whoa guy. 17 month necro?
     
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    LOL. Beat me to it!
     
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    Seriously? You should be blowing me for using the search function. This is an excellent conversation and I didn't want to start a new thread.
     
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    Lmao...

    I guarantee Atheist has several tubs of Vaseline lined up.
     
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    You always have to wonder at the political motives of well funded, well coordinated movements that are implemented at the same time across many nations.

    It just reeks of social engineering.
     
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  10. panamaican

    panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I'm not sure where this thread is headed...
     
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    Too many words for me to read.
     
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    Comic at end sums it up for you.
     
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    Why is that? Can you elaborate on why not?
     
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    There are double standards. Dont cry about it, crying is for women.
     
  16. Oldmansavage

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    White male guilt is a fleshy, pungent, low hanging fruit that is over-ripe for harvest. Do you blame the flea, tick or the leech for doing what comes natural? The well will run dry when even your most limp dicked progressive tires of his own bullshit.
     
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    Which movement would that be in respect to this thread?

    Because the feminist movement has a long history, has certainly not been implemented 'at the same time' considering the length of it's history across 'many nations'. The fact that it is NOW (or in the last generation or two) spread to many other nations does not in any way prove it originated as a 'well funded, well coordinated' movement.

    I doubt that has any impact on the actual point you are trying to get towards though.
     
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    Eh, I like the argument. Pending a source check, I see little issue.
     
  19. Snackbar

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    It is cool to be a victim today. Be it sex, sexual orientation, race, religion, politic views, etc. And if your a white male, the antagonist in all of this, you better be racked with white guilt.

    I never paid much attention to modern feminism until my oldest boy started school. The emasculation of the next generation of young boys is frightening.
     
  20. OldGoat

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    And btw, that's how all on the political left "debate" and frame issues concerning any pet group.
     
  21. panamaican

    panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Okay, I don't understand the point of the thread unless it's to present a large amount of information that others are unaware of.

    That's a fine thing to do but it also leaves the thread without a direction after that. So, I have no idea where the thread will end up, likely another gripe session by men about miniscule slights done to them by feminism while being oblivious to actual injustices to either sex.
     
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    panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    lol, well played.
     
  23. emax

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    That is a fair point, when discussing these things you don't want to replace one sense of extreme entitlement with another one. After all, that is ultimately what happened in the first place with second and third wave feminism. So I am with you on that one.
     

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