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Loiosh said:
It boils down to deciding if you want to give the courts the power to execute.

The justice system is so broken, that's not something I want.

It won't happen, anyways. There's too much money to be made incarcerating people.
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When it is a matter of clear cut guilt, I'm in favor of the death penalty. Not in 10 years, on the very day the criminal is caught.

For example, that man on the Greyhound bus who decapitated somebody with a jackknife, he should have been killed on scene.


Same goes for that man in the van, running over people in Toronto. Should have been shot dead instantly.


The only reason of keep people like this alive would be to torture them in order to get information out of them (like maybe they are part of a terrorist cell). Nevertheless, they should be killed and organs harvested within days.
 
bufetadanacara said:
When it is a matter of clear cut guilt, I'm in favor of the death penalty. Not in 10 years, on the very day the criminal is caught.

For example, that man on the Greyhound bus who decapitated somebody with a jackknife, he should have been killed on scene.


Same goes for that man in the van, running over people in Toronto. Should have been shot dead instantly.


The only reason of keep people like this alive would be to torture them in order to get information out of them (like maybe they are part of a terrorist cell). Nevertheless, they should be killed and organs harvested within days.
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I suppose that makes sense.

My biggest reservation is that death is final. We're really, really good at getting it wrong, and we're corrupt right down to the bone. Just how many cases are actually so simple you can just act on them in a day? One bad lawyer, one corrupt judge, one biased jury. THE END.

I think before we consider instant, final retribution, we need to examine why we incarcerate so many people and maybe reduce the financial burden another way.
 
While he deserves jail, I'll never understand how sentencing works.

He got 100 years for beating his girl up, some people shoot people and are out in like a decade.
 
Alphaboy said:
While he deserves jail, I'll never understand how sentencing works.

He got 100 years for beating his girl up, some people shoot people and are out in like a decade.
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He also threatened to kill the dude she was with while holding them hostage and raping Mack. He also used a weapon on her and the male victim. He was offered a plea deal that would have him paroled in approx. 10 years but he wanted to fight the charges.
 
WaylonMercy5150 said:
He also threatened to kill the dude she was with while holding them hostage and raping Mack. He also used a weapon on her and the male victim. He was offered a plea deal that would have him paroled in approx. 10 years but he wanted to fight the charges.
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Oh, didn't know all that... n/m
 
Gotta admit, I thought it'd be a tranny.......perhaps I've been on Sherdog too much
 
Loiosh said:
It boils down to deciding if you want to give the courts the power to execute.

The justice system is so broken, that's not something I want.

It won't happen, anyways. There's too much money to be made incarcerating people.
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Who’s making money incarcerating people besides corporate prisons?
 
Can you really rape a porn actress though?
Since she sells pussy for a living, wouldn’t that just be considered petty theft? :D

WaylonMercy5150 said:
He also threatened to kill the dude she was with while holding them hostage and raping Mack. He also used a weapon on her and the male victim. He was offered a plea deal that would have him paroled in approx. 10 years but he wanted to fight the charges.
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Pliny Pete said:
There are apartments/trailers on the prison compound
You put in a request for a family visit and if its approved a certain number of family members are allowed to come up and spend the weekend with you in the trailer
Theres a kitchen in there too so they can bring food with them to cook and its like a little weekend private getaway
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That is pretty cool. I guess there is something to that scene in Goodfellas when they are all in prison, but are in some separate wing that is basically an apartment all for themselves.
 
Omegaboy13 said:
Who’s making money incarcerating people besides corporate prisons?
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The law industry may have financial interest in long, drawn-out court cases to line their pockets instead of a simple swing of the hammer to bypass them and sentence a man to the firing squad.
 
bufetadanacara said:
There should be no such thing as a life sentence. Asking tax payers to finance lodging, food, etc. for criminals should be stopped.
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“Work “ Prisons, where they have farms and grow all their own food and make all their own clothing etc should be all of them. I think we only have one left.
 
Loiosh said:
Just them, and their billions of dollars to lobby and bribe.

It's a huge industry.
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It was born out of necessity though. When it comes time to dole out the money during legislation (federal and state), incarceration is always at the bottom. So much so, that private companies saw the void and exploited it. That’s not a fault of prisons themselves, but the public as a whole. IE, you and me. The truth is that corporate prisons can house offenders cheaper than the government can. The public has to decide whether or not they want punitive prisons, secure treatment/rehab, or inmate warehousing.
 
Kaybee said:
The law industry may have financial interest in long, drawn-out court cases to line their pockets instead of a simple swing of the hammer to bypass them and sentence a man to the firing squad.
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May or do?

The great majority of cases are tried by public prosecutors, defenders, and judges.
 
Omegaboy13 said:
It was born out of necessity though. When it comes time to dole out the money during legislation (federal and state), incarceration is always at the bottom. So much so, that private companies saw the void and exploited it. That’s not a fault of prisons themselves, but the public as a whole. IE, you and me. The truth is that corporate prisons can house offenders cheaper than the government can. The public has to decide whether or not they want punitive prisons, secure treatment/rehab, or inmate warehousing.
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I sincerely doubt that's true.

If the industry wasn't making such huge amounts of money housing inmates, America wouldn't have such a large percentage of the populace detained.
 
Loiosh said:
I sincerely doubt that's true.

If the industry wasn't making such huge amounts of money housing inmates, America wouldn't have such a large percentage of the populace detained.
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Are you implying that there’s a collusive effort between police, jails, lawyers, judges, and prisons? Seems more unlikely.
 
Omegaboy13 said:
Are you implying that there’s a collusive effort between police, jails, lawyers, judges, and prisons? Seems more unlikely.
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The police and lawyers aren't required. They are already rewarded for arrests and convictions. The owners of prisons profit from high prison populations, and judges have been found guilty of accepting bribes to both convict and issue higher sentences.

Prison for profit is a pretty complicated issue, but at some levels it's definitely happening. Eighteen percent (as of 2015) of federal prisoners are in private institutions making billions of dollars.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist and appreciate that this is one of may factors, but man, have you seen America's rate of incarceration?

Incarceration rates in OECD countries as of 2018

It's insane.
 
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