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Here's the thing. None of those fighters were protected. They didn't fight guys tailor made for their style. They fought every style. And there's also a progression. Mendes went from McKenzie to Guida to Lentz. They moved up the ranks before the TS. Edgar was a champ in the higher division, so surely you can see why they'd give him the shot.

Conor's case is different. Every match up has been against a fighter whose style matches up with his. It's been against guys who aren't that good, but who were talked WAY up. He also beat the #6 guy then went to the #10 guy for a TS. He's clearly being protected. Like I said, it's a business. It makes sense. But can we at least accept it among us fans?

That's some bullshit. Mendes' second run had him face ZERO threatening strikers, and mostly people he could overwhelm with his better wrestling.
 
Florian fought Nunes, who was riding high at the time (can't recall where he ranked at the time). Regardless, I'm not trying to justify undeserved shots. Frankly, I wish more top contenders fought each other.

Nunes was on a three fight win streak with two split decisions against Brown and Assuncao and a UD against Toner. He was ranked #7 on Sherdog.

And that was Florian's only win at FW.

So you complained about all these other guys getting shots then and started threads about them?
 
That's some bullshit. Mendes' second run had him face ZERO threatening strikers, and mostly people he could overwhelm with his better wrestling.

It's not Mendes' fault his wrestling is better than basically anybody else in the division. And what threatening strikers?
 
It's not Mendes' fault his wrestling is better than basically anybody else in the division. And what threatening strikers?

You've made my point.

With your logic I can say:

It's not McGregor's fault his striking is better than basically anybody else in the division.
 
Here's the thing. None of those fighters were protected. They didn't fight guys tailor made for their style. They fought every style. And there's also a progression. Mendes went from McKenzie to Guida to Lentz. They moved up the ranks before the TS. Edgar was a champ in the higher division, so surely you can see why they'd give him the shot.

Conor's case is different. Every match up has been against a fighter whose style matches up with his. It's been against guys who aren't that good, but who were talked WAY up. He also beat the #6 guy then went to the #10 guy for a TS. He's clearly being protected. Like I said, it's a business. It makes sense. But can we at least accept it among us fans?

Who was the challenging style match up for Mendes exactly and where was the diversity?

Just because Mendes fought a bunch of mediocre wrestlers doesn't make it a tougher road. Mendes matches up well with all the wrestlers at FW, except maybe Frankie who he hasn't fought.
 
Nunes was on a three fight win streak with two split decisions against Brown and Assuncao and a UD against Toner. He was ranked #7 on Sherdog.

And that was Florian's only win at FW.

So you complained about all these other guys getting shots then and started threads about them?

Well, current topics of conversation on Sherdog revolve around one Conor McGregor, so I used the occasion of his title shot to invite conversation about the propriety of protecting challengers from legitimate competition. Conor's shot is but one of many I feel are less than convincing. But, of course, reasonable minds can disagree. Please expound upon your views as to what warrants a title shot.
 
You've made my point.

With your logic I can say:

It's not McGregor's fault his striking is better than basically anybody else in the division.

Right. It's not. That's why he's given strikers. There are better fighters he could face. The difference with Mendes is, there weren't. The only pure striker he could've faced was Cub. For some reason, UFC decided not to make that fight. It actually makes sense. Mendes already proved he could hang with strikers in the UFC, and his wrestling style means he'll just beat strikers easily. I personally thought they should've made Cub vs Mendes tho. But you saw what happend to Cub (a striker) when he faced a good wrestler right? Cub and Conor are VERY similar in their careers.
 
Who was the challenging style match up for Mendes exactly and where was the diversity?

Just because Mendes fought a bunch of mediocre wrestlers doesn't make it a tougher road. Mendes matches up well with all the wrestlers at FW, except maybe Frankie who he hasn't fought.
And that's not his fault. There was nobody for him to fight who doesn't match up with his style. With Conor, there are 5 or 6 people in the top ten who don't match up with his style.
 
That is the way it is in MMA you can't match everybody against everybody because fighters can only fight 2 or 3 times an year. So it is impossible to really know who should be number 2 or 3 or etc
 
Don't bother, he's only trying to convince himself. It's embarrassing how transparent it is.

You haven't said anything in response to the topic of the thread. Please state your position, Mr. Hate You. The more rational it is, the more inclined I am to agree with you.
 
Right. It's not. That's why he's given strikers. There are better fighters he could face. The difference with Mendes is, there weren't. The only pure striker he could've faced was Cub. For some reason, UFC decided not to make that fight. It actually makes sense. Mendes already proved he could hang with strikers in the UFC, and his wrestling style means he'll just beat strikers easily. I personally thought they should've made Cub vs Mendes tho. But you saw what happend to Cub (a striker) when he faced a good wrestler right? Cub and Conor are VERY similar in their careers.

I saw Cub struggle a bit with Poirier and Siver respectively compared to Conor who blasted through both. So, we disagree.
 
And that's not his fault. There was nobody for him to fight who doesn't match up with his style. With Conor, there are 5 or 6 people in the top ten who don't match up with his style.

you just claimed he fought a diversity of styles and that his competition progressed. While I agree Guida and Lentz are a little better than Cody, you're not showing me how this run is so much more diversified or progressed than Conor's.

Not to mention, top ten guys? who on Mendes' hit list was that exactly besides Lentz? He was fighting Cody and Meza, but they couldn't find a BJJ or Striking specialist near that caliber?
 
There's a surprise.

Hey, I'm all for debate and changing my tune. I just don't see them as similar when Conor has shown to be more impressive against similar competition compared to Cub is all. :cool:
 
Can they really keep feeding him favourable matchups?

Dude brings in fans, let them learn how good Aldo is.
 
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