Volkanovski vs Makhachev 2?

Are people going to give credit to Islam if he beats Volk again? Seems like Islam was such a big favorite last fight and that many expected a dominant win. But since it was a close fight, Alex was still #1 P4P and many justified that even though it was marketed as “LW title on the line, #1P4P on the line”. Unless, Islam finished Alex in the 1st fight, it was a lose-lose situation for Islam. If he got a close win, you would get the “Alex was going up in weight” or “Islam was way the bigger guy”. If Islam lost, you’d get the “he was never that good”.

So if Islam gets another close win, and are we going to hear the same narratives?
 
LetThemBleed said:
Is there a definitive timeline on Volk's surgery and recovery. Heard 6-8 weeks recovery time I think from his head coach, if that's the case it's not feasible.
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Especially since it's been a week and I think he still hasn't had the surgery. I don't even know if he's back in australia yet. Volk should aim for a december return against topuria, then think about the LW belt after that.
 
MrBlackheart said:
Are people going to give credit to Islam if he beats Volk again? Seems like Islam was such a big favorite last fight and that many expected a dominant win. But since it was a close fight, Alex was still #1 P4P and many justified that even though it was marketed as “LW title on the line, #1P4P on the line”. Unless, Islam finished Alex in the 1st fight, it was a lose-lose situation for Islam. If he got a close win, you would get the “Alex was going up in weight” or “Islam was way the bigger guy”. If Islam lost, you’d get the “he was never that good”.

So if Islam gets another close win, and are we going to hear the same narratives?
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He won so of course you have to give him props, it's not like Volk came in at 145 or something but equally Islam won the fight for me by winning the 4th with position, it was that razor close, so there's credit to go around.
 
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fortheo said:
Especially since it's been a week and I think he still hasn't had the surgery. I don't even know if he's back in australia yet. Volk should aim for a december return against topuria, then think about the LW belt after that.
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Agreed though depending on Aljo I might say one more defense at FW after he picks apart Topuria. Imo 2 more defenses and Volk's above Aldo and Aljo should he win and get by Sean would be a good name to add to Volk's resume before he chases that Islam rematch.
 
Timeline for Volk probably doesn’t line up for 293 and I think they’ll do whatever they can to keep Islam on that card. I’d rather they both take another fight and then reevaluate after to see if it makes sense or if something else does.
 
MrBlackheart said:
Are people going to give credit to Islam if he beats Volk again? Seems like Islam was such a big favorite last fight and that many expected a dominant win. But since it was a close fight, Alex was still #1 P4P and many justified that even though it was marketed as “LW title on the line, #1P4P on the line”. Unless, Islam finished Alex in the 1st fight, it was a lose-lose situation for Islam. If he got a close win, you would get the “Alex was going up in weight” or “Islam was way the bigger guy”. If Islam lost, you’d get the “he was never that good”.

So if Islam gets another close win, and are we going to hear the same narratives?
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Yep. The truth is that Volk was probably 170 lbs for that fight and only weighed slightly less than Islam. People like to pretend he didn’t cut any weight or something.
 
I think Volkanovski might have trained too much wrestling for Islam.

Volkanovski seems to have been overconfident with his striking after doing so well against Holloway and Korean Zombie.

If they get a rematch, Volkanovski has to do better against Islam's standup defense. Islam would walk backward with his hands up and then time a straight punch. This scored points with the judges.
 
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i love charles but islam needs to defend against someone other then volk or islam. maybe just b eat up chandler for kicks. fighting the same names over and over in the end taints the legacy - see usman who only ended up beating 3 people
 
Alex needs to mix in his grappling in this fight and not respect him as much as he did if he wants to succeed this time around.
 
Volk deserves a rematch way more than Oliveira does but with the surgery timeline it's not realistic for it to happen now
 
LetThemBleed said:
Agreed though depending on Aljo I might say one more defense at FW after he picks apart Topuria. Imo 2 more defenses and Volk's above Aldo and Aljo should he win and get by Sean would be a good name to add to Volk's resume before he chases that Islam rematch.
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Good point, but at the same time I don't want volk to wait too long to try to get the LW belt because of his age and Aljo said he wants to take a little time to bulk up. In my ideal world, volk fights topuria in December, then islam around april or may, and then aljo after that.
 
The vast majority of people scoring the fight thought Islam won. And the judges agreed. If Volk wants another shot at 155 then he should have to fight another contender, and let Islam fight another one in his weight class as well. If they both win, match them back up for a second fight.
 
jk7707 said:
The vast majority of people scoring the fight thought Islam won. And the judges agreed. If Volk wants another shot at 155 then he should have to fight another contender, and let Islam fight another one in his weight class as well. If they both win, match them back up for a second fight.
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UFC have already said alex gets what he wants. They even said he could wait for the rematch without even having to defend against yair first, but alex wanted to stay busy.

When alex wants that rematch, he will get it most likely
 
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