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  1. The Legendary Scarface Record since UFC 266 : 11-10

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    Very good - great at EVERYTHING.

    I'm sure there is some recency bias, and probably just bias in general as I've always liked him as a fighter but I'd like to have this discussion...

    Grappling
    Bjj
    Boxing
    Kick boxing
    Cardio
    Power
    Chin
    Fight IQ
    Striking defense across the board..
    Distance control,
    Volume,
    Etc, etc

    He literally checks every single check box at a high level. You can't say this for AS, GSP, Jones , Aldo or anybody really current or former.

    This is really advanced, modern , mma of the highest calibur. I know im jumping the gun and will get some slack for saying this but please don't twist my wording when I say "He has a goat level foundation" and may be looked at as a hallmark for modern mma down the road . I'm extremely impressed right now.

    *No Known Weaknesses* meme comes to life
     
  2. Bubzeh Gold Belt

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    He’s great yes. Almost on Amanda’s level IMO.
     
  3. AldoStillGoat Purple Belt

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  4. The Legendary Scarface Record since UFC 266 : 11-10

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    Considering the disparity in competition they face, Volk is on an entirely different level.
     
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  5. Bubzeh Gold Belt

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    Lol. I respectfully disagree.
     
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    Super fight please!
     
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  7. surgeyou1 Welcome to the Machida Era...Part Deux

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    Usman has grapplefucked grapplers and KO'd strikers
     
  8. HHJ Fuckin' SHOOTOUT

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    Thats insane. He is miles above Nunes.
     
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  9. The Legendary Scarface Record since UFC 266 : 11-10

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    Good call.
    Although I'm not quite sold on his striking or striking defense to be very good - great just yet. He's on his way for sure with his last couple performances.
     
  10. HHJ Fuckin' SHOOTOUT

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    Usman is who i was thinking of too.

    People who want to talk about MMA evolving,well look no further.
     
  11. The Legendary Scarface Record since UFC 266 : 11-10

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    That's fair. I don't blame you.
     
  12. AldoStillGoat Purple Belt

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    Yup. He knocked out Masvidal whose bread and butter is striking. Even took out Colby via strikes I believe and Colby is decently well rounded himself.
     
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    The only thing is, if we're looking at the barometer of 'very good - great' at everything, I'm inclined to believe that the threat of the TD has tremendously helped him have as much success on the feet as he's had lately.

    Don't get me wrong, his striking has grown leaps and bounds and is certainly impressive but it still doesn't scream 'great striker" to me.
     
  14. HHJ Fuckin' SHOOTOUT

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    I dont count it that way. He doesnt have to be a good enough striker to do some fantasy fight in a sport he doesnt compete in. The main point is he knocked Masvidal out cold with one punch using a terrific advanced setup. It happened,it was real. That was supposed to be Mas' sweet spot.
     
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    Yeah it was phenomenal. But is he a great sstriker now because of that? I wouldn't call him one.

    Volk IS a great striker, and he's great everywhere.
     
  16. HHJ Fuckin' SHOOTOUT

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    I mean i think it's just semantics. If someone can fake a hook,trap the hand and finish you with the other,that is advanced striking tactics. Especially to pull that off against Masvidal. If it works,but its only in MMA,then it doesnt count?


    Also he has a sick powerful jab that is a formidable weapon as well
     
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    Fellow aussie and sydney resident. Met him once, down to earth and nice person. Glad he is doing very well.
     
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    I agreed with both of you as far as the evolution of MMA and the fighters you're highlighting. That said, you're missing @The Legendary Scarface main point, which is that Volkanovski does EVERYTHING at a high level. Usman still needs work in certain areas, for example, footwork and defense.
     
  19. HHJ Fuckin' SHOOTOUT

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    Well,put that way I can agree.
     
  20. The Witcher відродитися

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    All while being undersized in the division
     
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    He didnt grapple with Maia, Moraes, Colby or Burns the only good grapplers he fought

    He hasnt even fought many good strikers in the first place. 2 fat LWs in RDA and journeyman Jorge whos been outstruck numerous times and KOd the same way by Rodrigo Damm?

    LOL and Aldo, Max and Brian are better than anyone Usman has beaten. Mendes is better than almost anyone he beat too.
     
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