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  1. Oiler Purple Belt

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    His sub defense consists of supernatural resistance to subs that would finish a mere mortal

    If Ortega got on the ground in first few mins we would have a new champ

    Less sweat, more power left to crank

    Volk won, he is better, but there is a hole in his game.
     
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  2. Ares Black Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    Luck had nothing to do with it.
     
  3. chinarice Steel Belt

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    Just shows that with Ortega, he only needs 1 moment of opportunity to sink in a sub and end your night, even if you're kicking his ass.

    Unfortunately for Ortega this time, he had the sub sunk in and Volk just refused to tap and found a way out. I thought for sure he was done in that mounted guillotine. One of the most impressive sub escapes i've seen.
     
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  4. acannxr Red Belt

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    If Ortega had better takedowns and Volk had worse takedown defense...

    If Ortega had better cardio and Volk had worse cardio...

    Your what-if logic has nothing to do with luck or Volk having holes in his game.
     
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  5. Oiler Purple Belt

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    Yeah, just need a provocative subject line to foster discussion
     
  6. Mesos Black Belt

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    Hes not lucky. Alex trains with Craig Jones who is a very high level grappler. Apparently he’s pretty good on the ground too and we saw that proved last night.

    Alot of good fighters wouldn’t have gotten out of a dangerous Ortega sub.
     
  7. Guy LeDouche Brown Belt

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    Volk was tough*
    Fixed it for you.
     
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    Fair enough
     
  9. Oiler Purple Belt

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    This isnt a skill based what if...

    Its a "you shoulda done it earlier" what if

    Different animal

    And yes, he has a hole in his game and he will get subbed if he doesnt fix. This is pretty obvious.
     
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    I would think he trained a lot of sub defense leading up to this fight.
     
  11. Oiler Purple Belt

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    Tough as fucking nails
     
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  12. Zebra Cheeks 2 Cheeks And A Soda Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I don’t think it’s a hole in his game I think it’s a proven strength. One of his best assets is his G&P and despite Ortega being arguably the biggest submission threat in the division he handled it gracefully and dominantly.

    If Ortega can’t submit him how is anyone else supposed to?
     
  13. nostradumbass Steel Belt

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    So his "supernatural resistance to subs" is a hole in his game? Kind of sounds like a pretty strong attribute to me.
     
  14. electricfuneral Red Belt

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    Volk is fearless. Just hanging out on the ground with Ortega and obliterating just face
     
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    I don't see anyone subbing him at 145 if Ortega couldn't get the job done.
     
  16. Arrrrgh Black Belt

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    LOL what?

    Decent troll job.

    If anyone was lucky ortega was lucky that he even had an opportunity at the guillotine off the slip. Don't get me wrong he pounced on it quick as shit and deserves credit for that. But to say that Volk has a hole in his game, that he would have been subbed if ortega took it to the ground early? That's just a ridiculous take.
     
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  17. Only Here for Attachments Bacon Lettuce and Mayo

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    Volk's lucky the judging wasn't as biased as the reffing, medical team, and commentary.
     
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  18. Yoel Stoolmero Orange Belt

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  19. markys00 Silver Belt

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    There's always some 'luck' involved with combat sports, but it gets mitigated with genes, hard work, and skills. They all played a part
     
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  20. markys00 Silver Belt

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    Yea def seems the company was looking for Ortega to win that one. Feels sweeter this way
     
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