1. The official Sherdog Store is back! Check it out! » Discuss it here! »

Volk is kinda lucky

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Oiler, Sep 26, 2021.

  1. Oiler Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2012
    Messages:
    2,418
    Likes Received:
    23
    His sub defense consists of supernatural resistance to subs that would finish a mere mortal

    If Ortega got on the ground in first few mins we would have a new champ

    Less sweat, more power left to crank

    Volk won, he is better, but there is a hole in his game.
     
    lefthighkick01, Canarinha and Johnnny like this.
  2. Ares Black Plutonium Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2007
    Messages:
    51,702
    Likes Received:
    67,341
    Location:
    Ottawa,Ontario
    Luck had nothing to do with it.
     
  3. chinarice Steel Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2010
    Messages:
    31,459
    Likes Received:
    11,682
    Location:
    Moncton, NB
    Just shows that with Ortega, he only needs 1 moment of opportunity to sink in a sub and end your night, even if you're kicking his ass.

    Unfortunately for Ortega this time, he had the sub sunk in and Volk just refused to tap and found a way out. I thought for sure he was done in that mounted guillotine. One of the most impressive sub escapes i've seen.
     
    Kwic, MMAcolyte, jsbx45 and 23 others like this.
  4. acannxr Red Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2017
    Messages:
    9,068
    Likes Received:
    6,865
    If Ortega had better takedowns and Volk had worse takedown defense...

    If Ortega had better cardio and Volk had worse cardio...

    Your what-if logic has nothing to do with luck or Volk having holes in his game.
     
    Carsormyr, MMAcolyte, jsbx45 and 17 others like this.
  5. Oiler Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2012
    Messages:
    2,418
    Likes Received:
    23
    Yeah, just need a provocative subject line to foster discussion
     
  6. Mesos Black Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2014
    Messages:
    7,105
    Likes Received:
    11,552
    Hes not lucky. Alex trains with Craig Jones who is a very high level grappler. Apparently he’s pretty good on the ground too and we saw that proved last night.

    Alot of good fighters wouldn’t have gotten out of a dangerous Ortega sub.
     
  7. Guy LeDouche Black Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2018
    Messages:
    5,022
    Likes Received:
    2,898
    Volk was tough*
    Fixed it for you.
     
  8. Ares Black Plutonium Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2007
    Messages:
    51,702
    Likes Received:
    67,341
    Location:
    Ottawa,Ontario
    Fair enough
     
  9. Oiler Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2012
    Messages:
    2,418
    Likes Received:
    23
    This isnt a skill based what if...

    Its a "you shoulda done it earlier" what if

    Different animal

    And yes, he has a hole in his game and he will get subbed if he doesnt fix. This is pretty obvious.
     
  10. Ares Black Plutonium Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2007
    Messages:
    51,702
    Likes Received:
    67,341
    Location:
    Ottawa,Ontario
    I would think he trained a lot of sub defense leading up to this fight.
     
  11. Oiler Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2012
    Messages:
    2,418
    Likes Received:
    23
    Tough as fucking nails
     
    Guy LeDouche likes this.
  12. Zebra Cheeks 2 Cheeks And A Soda Staff Member Senior Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2009
    Messages:
    35,364
    Likes Received:
    65,921
    Location:
    Watchin Sports and Eatin Nachos
    I don’t think it’s a hole in his game I think it’s a proven strength. One of his best assets is his G&P and despite Ortega being arguably the biggest submission threat in the division he handled it gracefully and dominantly.

    If Ortega can’t submit him how is anyone else supposed to?
     
  13. nostradumbass Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2008
    Messages:
    34,544
    Likes Received:
    20,578
    So his "supernatural resistance to subs" is a hole in his game? Kind of sounds like a pretty strong attribute to me.
     
  14. electricfuneral Red Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2008
    Messages:
    9,812
    Likes Received:
    749
    Location:
    Anywhere, USA
    Volk is fearless. Just hanging out on the ground with Ortega and obliterating just face
     
    cosminmcm likes this.
  15. LetThemBleed Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2017
    Messages:
    11,382
    Likes Received:
    6,204
    Location:
    Adelaide, Australia
    I don't see anyone subbing him at 145 if Ortega couldn't get the job done.
     
  16. Arrrrgh Black Belt

    Joined:
    May 13, 2014
    Messages:
    7,039
    Likes Received:
    2,266
    LOL what?

    Decent troll job.

    If anyone was lucky ortega was lucky that he even had an opportunity at the guillotine off the slip. Don't get me wrong he pounced on it quick as shit and deserves credit for that. But to say that Volk has a hole in his game, that he would have been subbed if ortega took it to the ground early? That's just a ridiculous take.
     
    Iron Wolf likes this.
  17. Only Here for Attachments Bacon Lettuce and Mayo

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2016
    Messages:
    29,468
    Likes Received:
    14,282
    Location:
    Rapid City, SD
    Volk's lucky the judging wasn't as biased as the reffing, medical team, and commentary.
     
    empsim likes this.
  18. Yoel Stoolmero Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2017
    Messages:
    408
    Likes Received:
    161
  19. markys00 Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2008
    Messages:
    12,822
    Likes Received:
    1,869
    There's always some 'luck' involved with combat sports, but it gets mitigated with genes, hard work, and skills. They all played a part
     
    jsbx45 likes this.
  20. markys00 Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2008
    Messages:
    12,822
    Likes Received:
    1,869
    Yea def seems the company was looking for Ortega to win that one. Feels sweeter this way
     
    BigDogShotty and cosminmcm like this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.