Viper's folly (GOT spoiler)

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A thought for the Game of Thrones fans out there, it did hit me that for all Viper's stand-up last week he could have really benefited from some BJJ. As he stood beside the mountain thinking he was done, the Mountain gets the ankle pick. Then he really should have tried to establish a guard preferably a high full guard to keep his weight off. As the mountain attempted to straight arm eye gouge, bam throw up a simple arm bar. The mountain admits to killing his sister just before he breaks it. Then he calls out and rips up Tywin Lanister, the seven kingdoms are saved and all praise to Carlos (or Helio depending upon which side of the fence you sit).

Instead Viper gets mounted and his head exploded, and it all could have been prevented with the basics.
 
How would you ever approach playing guard in that situation vs The Mountain? A 7' giant with incredible strength decked out in full armor. You think he's going to armbar him? He's going to get his head slammed against the ground.

The correct option would have been to pull RDLR and Berimbolo him, using the chain mesh like a gi grip. After securing his back? you choke him unconscious, preferably with a palm to palm RNC. While unconscious, you finish the job.

Paulo Miyao could do it.
 
OoopsaDaisey said:
How would you ever approach playing guard in that situation vs The Mountain? A 7' giant with incredible strength decked out in full armor. You think he's going to armbar him? He's going to get his head slammed against the ground.

The correct option would have been to pull RDLR and Berimbolo him, using the chain mesh like a gi grip. After securing his back? you choke him unconscious, preferably with a palm to palm RNC. While unconscious, you finish the job.

Paulo Miyao could do it.
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He's suppose to be a little over 8'
 
Gregor Clegane (the mountain) vs. Oberyn Martell (red viper)
~8ft vs ~5'10
420lb vs ~160lb
35 vs 42 years old
both have trained in combat since their childhood

This would be like trying to arm bar a silverback gorilla with the skill of a d1 wrestler.
 
Unfortunately the Mountain's punch sent him immediately to la la land, at that point there wasn't bridge or guard solid enough that could have saved him from that horrible end
 
no death of a fictional character ever hurt me as bad as that.

it literally ruined my week.
 
Judo pins origin

takedown an armoured opponent
pin him
STAB HIM IN BETWEEN THE ARMOUR PLATES
 
cant simple grapple like that with armor and weapons.
samurai uses throws to stun and find the weak point of the armor, or so ive heard.
but not impossible.
 
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wow, if the Viper death got you heated you guys are gonna be REAL pissed when Cersei kills Arya.
 
what he really should have done is to kill him right away when he had him down.
 
Rudyard Kipling said it best.

"But Iron
 
Id love to see grappling match between The Mountain in full armor and one of the giants.
My bet is on The Mountain via helmet headbutts from guard.
That giants forehead looked quite thick though...:icon_chee
 
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