Crime Violence, Race, Criminal Justice

[kingstu]

I hesitate using that phrase since the race of the
accused and the race of the victim is the same in more than 90%+ of all crimes. I only use it to describe the phenomenon that Black people represent less than 15% of the population but more than 50% of all murder victims.

if you know any police officers then you know morale is terrible and police officers have gone from aggressive proactive law enforcement to waiting for a radio call. Back in the old days police simply didn’t enforce the law in most Black communities.

Study after study shows the average Black person wants more police officers not fewer. The loudest calls for “defund the police” come from Black activists who seem to always live in low crime White communities and White liberals who will never have to live in a “defund the police” community.

For anyone who wants less aggressive law enforcement you don’t need to wonder what will happen ... you just need to see what actually did happen. It appears BLM protests do reduce police killings by a few hundred over 5 years while increasing citizen killings by a few thousand over 5 years.

Murder rates soar dramatically in cities after BLM protests ... up to 6,000 extra deaths nationwide

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...lly-cities-BLM-protests-researcher-finds.html

 

[Papi Chulo]

The people that can will just end up moving out of the Democrat cities once the Leftists have neutered law enforcement.

As people move out though, they will vote Democrat and transform that community into a leftist cesspool in the suburbs and the cycle of decay will begin there.

 

[HockeyBjj]

This thread is a ban trap for sure

 

[Papi Chulo]

I feel bad for this man. He doesn't want a Marxist revolution in his community. But it's too late. The Leftists have taken over and law enforcement will be neutered. Guys like this know that they need law enforcement to have a presence in his community

 

[JSN]

This thread is a ban trap for sure

How so? These are facts. Mass media paints black people as a monolith of criminal to semi-criminal clones living in poverty.

 

[SammyPops]

Black on black crime is whtie people's fault, esp. in cities where most political leaders are black.

 

[tangata motu'a]

Man oh man. People who don't like to admit there is a problem love to point out "black on black" crime. But those same people never like to look at what causes it in the first place. Blacks killing each other so often can easily be pinned on white supremacy. Why? It is a result of economic status. If you are poor, you are much more likely to be committing crimes. Blacks and Native Americans suffer from the highest rate of poverty.

Back in the 60's, all white schools got more funding than schools that had mostly students of color. the result is not surprising. those in low income neighborhoods who went to under funded schools with poor teachers were less likely to pay attention in class and more likely to drop out of school. Now, without an education, you are less likely to get a good job. now you have no job, live in poverty, and are more likely to resort to crimes like selling drugs, etc. now that all can easily lead to more serious crimes.

then, let's say you go to jail, do your time and want to do right. you have no chance. you aren't getting a good job with a record. it is a vicious cycle that is almost impossible to get out of. That cycle was created by their oppressor, and it is responsible for the death of millions of African Americans. Black people didn't start that, white people did. So instead of blaming the people, let's focus on the cause

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Black on black crime is white people's fault, esp. in cities where most political leaders are black.

Blacks killing each other so often can easily be pinned on white supremacy.

literally one after another. (i know the first one's irony)
like clockwork

 

[Mcountry]

Man oh man. People who don't like to admit there is a problem love to point out "black on black" crime. But those same people never like to look at what causes it in the first place. Blacks killing each other so often can easily be pinned on white supremacy. Why? It is a result of economic status. If you are poor, you are much more likely to be committing crimes. Blacks and Native Americans suffer from the highest rate of poverty.

Back in the 60's, all white schools got more funding than schools that had mostly students of color. the result is not surprising. those in low income neighborhoods who went to under funded schools with poor teachers were less likely to pay attention in class and more likely to drop out of school. Now, without an education, you are less likely to get a good job. now you have no job, live in poverty, and are more likely to resort to crimes like selling drugs, etc. now that all can easily lead to more serious crimes.

then, let's say you go to jail, do your time and want to do right. you have no chance. you aren't getting a good job with a record. it is a vicious cycle that is almost impossible to get out of. That cycle was created by their oppressor, and it is responsible for the death of millions of African Americans. Black people didn't start that, white people did. So instead of blaming the people, let's focus on the cause

Black community got destroyed by Biden's war on drugs and kamala stuffing them in profit prisons.

The solution isn't to lower all standard for inclusion it's to invest money in the poor and hope the rise up out of poverty with no roadblocks.

Equity and this bastardized version of affirmative action is going to make things much worse down the road.

 

[Proud American]

The people that can will just end up moving out of the Democrat cities once the Leftists have neutered law enforcement.

As people move out though, they will vote Democrat and transform that community into a leftist cesspool in the suburbs and the cycle of decay will begin there.

what happens next when the tax base evaporates. All the taxpayers leave, leaving just people who don’t pay any tax and live off of local, state and federal assistance.

their water bills and stuff like that skyrocket.

if you have 50,000 people paying the bill for the cities water infrastructure, what happens when only 5,000 are left and they have to cover the same costs of the infrastructure. Look at flint and Detroit.

democrats only know how to find something good and ruin it.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

I hesitate using that phrase since the race of the
accused and the race of the victim is the same in more than 90%+ of all crimes. I only use it to describe the phenomenon that Black people represent less than 15% of the population but more than 50% of all murder victims.

if you know any police officers then you know morale is terrible and police officers have gone from aggressive proactive law enforcement to waiting for a radio call. Back in the old days police simply didn’t enforce the law in most Black communities.

Study after study shows the average Black person wants more police officers not fewer. The loudest calls for “defund the police” come from Black activists who seem to always live in low crime White communities and White liberals who will never have to live in a “defund the police” community.

For anyone who wants less aggressive law enforcement you don’t need to wonder what will happen ... you just need to see what actually did happen. It appears BLM protests do reduce police killings by a few hundred over 5 years while increasing citizen killings by a few thousand over 5 years.

Murder rates soar dramatically in cities after BLM protests ... up to 6,000 extra deaths nationwide

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...lly-cities-BLM-protests-researcher-finds.html

less cops = more deaths.

this is an undisputable fact.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

What an original thread

well, it's still an ongoing issue, especially with rates of crime (especially violent crime) skyrocketing in cities all across the US.

and many believe the solution to be "less cops" or "Defund the Police",....

this is worth discussing, even if it makes many uncomfortable.

 

[Armbars]

What an original thread

Yeah, have to agree.

What is the purpose?

 

[nostradumbass]

Beetleguise is in problem! Didn't that bitch pull security from blocks where antics was rooting and put it in her own neighborhood?

Or something to that effect.

That's because her family is important to her, and she has a right to use taxpayer funds for tons of police protection around her neighborhood. Her hygiene is also important to her, unlike you swine, which is also why she shows up with a haircut literally days after running a video saying haircuts specifically are off limits for the peasants.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Yeah, have to agree.

What is the purpose?

LIke I said above.

crime, especially violent crime has gone up in every major US city. the victims of these crimes are often African American.

many believe the solution to be less police, or defund the police. we have already seen the corollary effects of this .

 

[Mcountry]

LIke I said above.

crime, especially violent crime has gone up in every major US city. the victims of these crimes are often African American.

many believe the solution to be less police, or defund the police. we have already seen the corollary effects of this .

Naw I say let it play out a bit more! Give it a bit more time.

Lol

 

[Hadron90]

Beetleguise is in problem! Didn't that bitch pull security from blocks where antics was rooting and put it in her own neighborhood?

Or something to that effect.

Yep. She ordered police to stand down and not address the riots. Except when the riots came to her house. Then she had the police form a full 24/7 perimeter around her neighborhood and arrest any protestors on sight.

 

[Armbars]

LIke I said above.

crime, especially violent crime has gone up in every major US city. the victims of these crimes are often African American.

many believe the solution to be less police, or defund the police. we have already seen the corollary effects of this .

These threads never end well though.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

well, it's still an ongoing issue, especially with rates of crime (especially violent crime) skyrocketing in cities all across the US.

and many believe the solution to be "less cops" or "Defund the Police",....

this is worth discussing, even if it makes many uncomfortable.

I just think we need a mega thread.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

These threads never end well though.

I just think we need a mega thread.

agreed...hopefully we can change that, and actually have nuanced, civil and polite conversation on the matter.