*VIDEO* some random sparring from this friday.

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  1. Frode Falch

    Frode Falch Gold Belt Professional Fighter

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    fightingrabbit Banned Banned

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    Elbows too pointy. Would not hit.
     
  3. SAAMAG

    SAAMAG San Antonio Applied Martial Arts Group

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    The sparring partner reminds me of a cat. A super cat pawing a yarn of kryptonite.

    One of the things I really like about your entries and combinations is that when he's moving back straight, you end with a long attack to try and catch him on the way out. In other instances you use attacks where he runs into the technique, like when he's moving laterally and you throw a hook or an angle kick.

    It's hard for you to get real work because super cat isn't exactly a seasoned fighter. I know you said it's hard to find folks in that area...maybe you need to put out some flyers and pay a small sum for good partners. I'd like to see you guys include at least some standing clinch work, and more knees / elbows tossed in there.

    Thanks for sharing brotha. Do you have any video of your amateur bouts?
     
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  4. SummerStriker

    SummerStriker Black Belt

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    At 2:35 I liked your decision to start your combo on that side after the kick. Looked pretty sweet.
     
  5. Pearse Shields

    Pearse Shields Amateur Fighter

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    SuperCat looks like he's pretty fresh. How long has he been training? Also, nice work, very sexy.
     
  6. Frode Falch

    Frode Falch Gold Belt Professional Fighter

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    Thanks. He came to my little gym in september. He had only trained karate for 6 month before that.
     
  7. Pearse Shields

    Pearse Shields Amateur Fighter

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    He could definitely be doing worse than that for that amount of time training then. I don't entirely like the way that he holds his arms out- there's a time and a place (such as feeling out, or working into a clinch), but not the whole time.

    Any reason you spar no shin guards? Is that a regular thing for you?
     
  8. Frode Falch

    Frode Falch Gold Belt Professional Fighter

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    I try to spar without shinguard on light sparring. only with people i know well enouh. People who know what light flow sparring is about.

    normaly we use both shinguard and 16 oz gloves.
     
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    thirteen Brown Belt

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    Good lord your sparring partner really needs to work on his hands.
    He throws a pretty nice high kick early in the vid.

    Did I miss something????
     
  10. Nuclearlandmine

    Nuclearlandmine Shreddin' Double Yellow Card

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    You missed a lot, my friend. Check out the archives. It should have that thread you are looking for.
     
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  12. Jet Lag

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    Nice light sparring, but without shin guards I'm always scared to injure myself.

    And damn, that Payak guy trolled us good haha...
     
  13. SAAMAG

    SAAMAG San Antonio Applied Martial Arts Group

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    Sparring without shin guards isn't a big deal if its done in a light session or playful session. It would be stupid to do it if you're just in the gym and just want to prove how hard you are. Just impedes training at that point.
     
  14. Frode Falch

    Frode Falch Gold Belt Professional Fighter

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    yeah. shinguard have its place.
     
  15. ssullivan80

    ssullivan80 see....what had happened was

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    Frode,

    You look good man, you have good composure. Again, here's my thing with watching your sparring vids. It's difficult to see your true ability because I have yet to see you in there with a sparring partner who's skill is equivalent too or greater than yours. I think that in order to give you really meaningful advice it's gonna take seeing you against someone who can really test you. Either way, couple things I saw that may help.

    - If you got a guy who like's to keep tapping that front leg, bringing it up and down like he was. Just time it, throw your rear leg low kick as he's lifting that leg and you'll either make contact soon as it comes down or you'll swing right underneath it and blast his rear leg. I assure you, if I were to be picking up and bouncing my lead leg like your opponent was when sparring against some of the more advanced guys I know, I'd be doing mid air cartwheels from having them swing a low kick right under/through that lead leg and chopping out the post leg.

    - Learn to stop your offensive advances in the pocket vs. crowding all the way in. You come forward well with strikes but end up smothering yourself. Work on stopping just a step or two before getting all the way in, this is where you'll be able to find the 1 shot that you can really see well and set into. Smothering a defensive opponent who's just covering up is giving him an "out". Stop just 1 step short and throw a couple "feeler" shots, look for the reaction and you'll be able to see the opportunity to land the cleaner shots on a defending opponent.

    - When your backing up and defending, don't separate your hands from your body so much, i.e: don't reach out, keep your guard a little tighter and use your feet. Separating your guard, putting your hands/arms out in front of you while backing up is a dangerous game. You leave far more openings for your opponent to find his shot. In addition, when your backing up defending, set your stance and hold your ground. By continuing to back up your letting your opponent get off 2-3 more shots than he could of if you just set in your stance, get your base, tighten your guard, defend and counter. See clips below, good example of how these habit will get you in trouble.

    Pause at 7seconds and 22seconds. You'll clearly see how the separation of his arms/hands from his body opened him up for those shots. Those weren't hard punches. But when your on your back foot, they look much harder because you get knocked off balance (i.e Marquez's first knockdown of Pac, same example here. It's not that the shot is hard it's when it lands he's on his back foot leaning away).



    Now, if you watch this exchange in contrast. By keeping your guard tighter, not separating the arms from body and holding your ground, not hopping out.... You can much more quickly transition defense to offense. This is another example of why you should be moving your head or exiting at an angle behind your combos. He threw that combo like most people do on a heavy bag. Throw shots then just stand there, this is what happens when you do that against a real opponent and why it's so important when hitting the bag to make sure your moving your head and using defensive movements after you throw your combos. That's when your opponent is going to throw back.

     
  16. SAAMAG

    SAAMAG San Antonio Applied Martial Arts Group

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    That's an excellent video to illustrate what you're talking about. The 23 sec mark I loved because you took advantage of your long reach AND attacked from blow and above. Timing was perfect too. Very nice.



    Yep, the other guy was punching like a bag pounder. No head movement or elevation changes or footwork or covering after attack strings. Nice whipping hook. I like doing that myself but requires allowing a glancing blow because I have t-rex arms compared to you.

    Frode...listen to this man. He's a fellow viking and you two probably have some of the same attributes to exploit.
     
  17. ringosher

    ringosher White Belt

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    really good work!

    only thing is don't kick his head when he is covering his head, kick his ribs! learn to defend the teep. try kicking his ankle (sweep) or thrusting his thighs (to prevent him from moving).

    great work. good flow. good timing. really good.
     
  18. ssullivan80

    ssullivan80 see....what had happened was

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    Yep, he was actually just working on a HB before we started that sparring session. Funny thing is how advantageous of a position he got himself into as I was backing up, his lead foot well outside of mine and with me on my back foot. Pause at 11 seconds and you'll see where he went wrong, he should've got his upper body over his hips pressed. Had he added a simple pivot or lateral step and brought either that hook or cross down to the body, i'd of been in no position to do anything but cover up, as he'd of been out to my blind side being a sp. Only reiterating why working the HB in-out in straight lines can develop such bad habits.

    I love that whipping hook, particularly against SP's. Being a longer guy they dont see it coming and I can throw it up over there shoulder or use it to counter the jab. That first one I threw, that missed, had I set down and not thrown it from my tippie toes the rear UC would've been right there. But as you note, having those shorter t-rex arms makes that same hook for you that much more dangerous, as your going to be in a position to link up 2-3 more shots (and guys with trex arms have notoriously harder hooks). I have a guy I spar often that is built like you, and he links UC's to the body behind that whipping lead hook and catches me all the time, shit hurts too! even knowing it's coming its still very difficult to defend.
     
  19. KounterPunch

    KounterPunch Purple Belt

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    Dunno but IMO throwing a left hook to the body like that , with no jab / hook up top or even a feint is a good way to get cracked with a good shot ( either by design or he just happens to throw a shot at the same time)
    Maybe in the later rounds , when the other guy's tired , you can get away with it but not this early.

    TO SULLY 80 :

    Another thing ( though u didn't ask ) , in the last 10 seconds , it's nice to see you use the shoulder roll n all but that lil sway you did while absorbing his left is a strict no-no.
    Though homeboy obviously doesn't know what he's doing , that hook is thrown to move you into the right hand which you won't be able to roll from there.
    You roll the right but NOT the hook . You put your right hand on your face and trust in it stopping that shot. You can sway back or down and to your right , even INTO his hook ( which gives u great countering opportunities ) but you DO NOT sway to the left.
    What u did there is a natural flinch reaction . You have to train that out. Yeah it takes a bit of the impact off that hook but it's not like you're gonna KOed through your glove.

    Floyd Mayweather does that sometimes but what he's doing is showing them that lil window of opportunity for that right and then taking it away . You have to remember that one of the first things Floyd always does is take away his opponents right hand.
    Once he does that they're hesitant to throw it anymore. Then he shows them that little opportunity to get them throwing it again.
    He can do that because he's insanely good at rolling that right ,but for us mere plebeians .......we have to be more fundamental.

    When using that defense , your main priority is rolling that right. Everything else comes from there.
    Any jabs / L-hooks etc are all distractions / ploys to get you to forget that.

    Hope this helps and gives u something to play with.
     
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  20. Babba

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    Where are you training out of, Frode - which gym?
     

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