(vid) Kyra Gracie Anaconda Choke

Hmm. That looks pretty cool. I'll have to give it a try.
 
Not trying to say that Marcio and Kyra don't know their shit, but I was under the impression that locking your hands in that fashion was a Brabo choke.
 
that was funny how she tapped him and then he was like "put me back in it. i think i felt your bewbs."
 
Not trying to say that Marcio and Kyra don't know their shit, but I was under the impression that locking your hands in that fashion was a Brabo choke.

I think it is, but she is setting it up from the anaconda position rather than the brabo.
 
reminds me of the darce choke but different

Not that different, I don't think.
Only detail that's different from a normal brabo/darce setup is that she adds a step in clearing the arm.
 
Not trying to say that Marcio and Kyra don't know their shit, but I was under the impression that locking your hands in that fashion was a Brabo choke.

I was under the impression that they were both called kata jime, or an arm triangle. It's like reinventing the wheel because "Mine rolls forward AND backward." If you're going to do it once, you might as well do it a few times and refer to it as something completely different every time you learn to apply it from a different position. Makes your list of techniques sound much more impressive that way.
 
I was under the impression that they were both called kata jime, or an arm triangle. It's like reinventing the wheel because "Mine rolls forward AND backward." If you're going to do it once, you might as well do it a few times and refer to it as something completely different every time you learn to apply it from a different position. Makes your list of techniques sound much more impressive that way.

They are both arm triangle chokes, but are set up, applied, and finished very differently. What she does is a brabo/darce from the anaconda setup.
 
names of moves are meaningles, I know a few blackbelts, and everyone calls same moves differently. call it brabo, anaconda, armtriangle, gator roll, aligator choke, or just choke. same as sweeps or kimuras, it reallydoes not matter.
 
let's add another name to the list... we call that a Marce Choke at our gym.
 
They are both arm triangle chokes, but are set up, applied, and finished very differently. What she does is a brabo/darce from the anaconda setup.

They're fucking arm triangle chokes... or kesa Jime. Why you have to call it something different every time you learn to apply it from a different position is beyond me. I can apply a regular triangle from several different positions. I don't need a new name for each one.
 
Why a different name for each variation? How about that specificity of language facilitates concise communication?

I was under the same impression as the posters above, that what she was showing was a brabo choke variation. In fact, in my gym we show that choke specifically as an alternative, if the person on the bottom is not letting you set up the more usual anaconda.
 
They're fucking arm triangle chokes... or kesa Jime. Why you have to call it something different every time you learn to apply it from a different position is beyond me. I can apply a regular triangle from several different positions. I don't need a new name for each one.

If you have the opponent in turtle in a comp. His base is weaker on one side and your coach yells out "ARM TRIANGLE," you're going to have to evaluate what side his base is weak on, go for that grip, then either dump him to his side, or lock and gator roll to finish.

If he yells "Darce," you know exactly which way to lock and dump.

if he yells "Anaconda," you know to lock the outside and gator roll.

Like i said, they're both arm triangle chokes - i'm not disagreeing with you there. Different names make it easier to recognize and capitalize in competition - and just explaining in general.

If we want to take your point to the extreme, a triangle is a triangle. It doesn't matter if you do it with your arms or legs, the concept is the same. So every choke involving the arm we should just call a triangle choke. Kimura, omoplata, americana? All shoulder locks. What's the point of those names?

If it doesn't help you then call it an arm triangle - it does help me. I also recognize that there are extremes (Marce? wtf)...its a matter of opinion and what helps you individually.

edit: exactly what pittfrog said - it facilitates better communication.
 
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