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Very few people in MMA history have a better resume of wins than The Chris

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  1. Threetrees

    Threetrees Well Actually

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    Anderson x2
    Lyoto Machida
    Vitor Belfort

    Wow

    what a run

    Who matches this? Werdum maybe?
    Surprised he doesn't get more respect as the MW GOAT. Werdum lost a lot at HW too, but he still gets play because of his peaks
     
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    Natural Order Bad Mutha Shoopa

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    Weuylf Life is Hard

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    No one was ever winning as many fights untill they lost as the Chris. Undisputed GOAT in this field.
     
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    Leonard Haid Minimalist Living the Illusory Dream

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    HughPhug Plug Tunin'

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    How about Israel? Dude beat Prime Anderson, Prime Kevin & Prime Bob = BEAST

    NOW HE'S THE BEST EVA

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  6. Threetrees

    Threetrees Well Actually

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    Oh I'm sorry
    is beating Anderson Silva TWICE not one of the biggest accomplishments in MMA ever .
     
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    I'm Not A Nugget Blue Belt

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    Openly ducked TRT Vitor until trt was banned
     
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    Reach4theSky Playin' a riddim

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    Jon Jones..

    Shogun
    Bader
    TRT Vitor
    Rashad
    Gus x 2
    DC x 2
    Rampage
    Machida
    Glover
    Chael
     
  9. TheSpider

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    Weidman got KOd 4 times in 5 fights as soon as he stopped fighting past their prime Brazilians
     
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    Jon Jones trumps everyone.
    No one on that list is as good as Anderson Silva though.
     
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    Reach4theSky Playin' a riddim

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    That's true, but in fairness. Jon didn't have an Anderson Silva in his division. And if Anderson decided to move up to fight him, it would have been a one sided beat down with Jones winning imo..
     
  12. Zebra Cheeks

    Zebra Cheeks Don’t look into the eye of the storm Platinum Member

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    The thing that spanks his legacy is that

    1. Mysterious decline as soon as usada is implemented.

    2. Anderson, his biggest accomplishment, has never performed like he once did since the losses. You can say Weidman “stole his soul” but it’s also possible to argue Anderson was already on a decline after some long wars prior to the Weidman fight. Either way, it’s tough to argue Anderson was in his prime.
     
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    Threetrees Well Actually

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    Maybe, but people can only fight who they fight
    Jon Jones has the best resume in MMA, there's no denying that
    Just saying that very few people have a better peak to their careers as Chris Weidman - Jon Jones is 100% one of them
     
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    Zebra Cheeks Don’t look into the eye of the storm Platinum Member

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    No, but jones had DC. And DC was arguably just as dominant in his own fashion.
     
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    I don't believe Anderson was in his prime
    But Primes are tough - I mean Anderson still looked like superman right before that fight, but that's of course because we judged him relative to who he was fighting rather than relative to how he looked at a younger age. So its tough, when does a prime really end? I mean physically guys get worse as they age, but some guys also better technique wise and fight in smarter ways
    Hard to say, I don't think you can discredit Weidman over something he can't control
     
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    Zebra Cheeks Don’t look into the eye of the storm Platinum Member

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    you’re absolutely right, and I don’t intend to smear his legacy, but that’s why longevity and consistency are important. Because it becomes tough to poke holes in someone’s story when they win over, and over and over.
    Chris has a few good wins but it was such a spark, and small event in the history of the division in the grand scheme of things.

    the thing I’ll say is that his losses, with the exception of being KOd by Souza, came from some of the beat MW’s we’ve ever seen. I mean, the dude fought moussasi, Silva, rockhold, romero, Gastelum. This mans never taken an easy fight in his life. If he had pulled off just 1 or 2 of the fights he lost, I would rank him a lot higher historically.
     
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    When its all said and done I think he'll drop really far in MW rankings
    but his strength of schedule at MW has been absolutely absurd, I mean there's not a rebuild fight in there since he fought Maia

    But he's carved out a place in history by beating Silva twice. I mean even if Silva was on the downswing, that's huge - and he stopped him the first time around. Anderson's not even glass jawed today at 43.
     
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    2 big wins and then some ok ones. You didn't even mention Weidmans win over Kelvin which is more impressive than old Machida and Belfort.

    Just off the top of my head, most of Anderson's other losses debatably have better resumes.

    Cormier - Stipe, Anderson, Gustafsson, Henderson, Rumble x2

    Bisping: - Anderson, Henderson, Rockhold

    Israel - Whitaker, Anderson, Gastelum


    All better than an over the hill Machida, TRTless Belfort and a freak Anderson injury in the second one.

    Some fighters have other fighters numbers, doesn't make them a better fighter necessarily i.e. Hallman/Hughes.
     
  19. BJpencil

    BJpencil Purple Belt

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    His run pre-USADA was excellent. It's a different sport now. SInce USADA he has some of the most memorable KO's (receiving them) in the sport. Rockhold and Vick are up there. At least he's still in the sport. Doesn't Big Rig own a barbecue restaurant now?
     
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    ortizgnp Juice Belt

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    People shitting on fighters for ducking TRT Vitor. Could you imagine?

    Goofs
     

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