Vegetarian?

Discussion in 'Dieting / Supplement Discussion' started by SuperCubsFan, Sep 14, 2005.

  1. SuperCubsFan

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    A few months ago I became a vegetarian and have picked up my training alot the past few weeks. I know absolutly nothing about supplements and wanted to know if anyone could point me in the right direction. I guess the big thing is to get protein, but is there anything else I should try to fulfill through supplements because I don't eat meat?


    Sorry if this is a bad thread that I could have fulfilled with a FAQ somewhere. If you have any problems with it feel free to send it to the wastland.


    Thanks for your help!
     
  2. Madmick

    Madmick Cerebrage Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    That's awesome that you're becoming a vegetarian, bro. Keep it up. I was for four years. I hope to get back to it, I'm being selfish eating meat right now, although I'm keeping it free range.

    In order to do it right, you're gonna have to read a book:
    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...bs_b_2_1/104-1450697-6610329?v=glance&s=books


    Are you vegan, ovo-lacto, fruitarian, or piscerian?
     
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    Not sure what I am classified as. I don't eat meat or eggs.
     
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    You greatly need to get a B12 supplment, thats for sure.
     
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    I really didnt like what it did to me while I was training. I started it because I wanted a six pack and to be healthier. Over 6 months I dropped from 160 to 150 and became anemic. Just be sure to take alot of suppliments but in reality the best source of protein for building your muscle is lean red meat. Boca Burgers/Tofu/Edamame and soy are all good sources but not the best IMO.
     
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    eat fish?
     
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    no don't eat fish
     
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    Madmick Cerebrage Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Then you're ovo-lacto. You don't need a B12 supplement unless you're a vegan. Besides, Multi's are usually overloaded with B12, so that's enough. But you can get B12 from dairy.
     
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    This is why anyone who goes vegetarian, especially vegans, needs to read a book. I only lost fat when I first became vegetarian (I later gained most of it back). I gained 10 pounds of muscle while I was a vegetarian.

    Just order that book, man.
     
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    Yeah I think I will. Thanks alot for the help.
     
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    I've been a vegaterian for 10 years. When I began lifting not too long ago I started at 145lbs and have gone up to 185lbs. So it's certainly possible to make gains on a veg diet.
    Just make sure you're getting plenty of protien, and b12 and iron.


    Schiff actually makes a vegaterian multi vitamin.

    -Kev
     
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    You should just take a B Complex and skip taking B12 seperatly. Protein is important and I recommend Whey since you are not getting much protein from animal sources. Incorporating cottage cheese is a good way to add lean protein into your diet. I have been a Vegetarian for three years and I went from 332lbs to 251lbs right now at 6'6".
     
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    My friend and Mom are both Vegetarians.

    They reccomend alot of beans, an tofu into your diet, along with some vitamins. you should be good.


    Man i could never be a veggie, i like steak too much
     
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    wenispinkle Skankin' It Easy...

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    just curious, where do you vegetarian guys get your protein from, especially enough to gain muscle? ive always been under the assumption that protein you get while eating vegetarian is coming from soy and whatnot.....but someone recommended whey, which comes from milk, so im guessing its cool to drink milk products and such? once again, just curious
     
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    The problem with the 12g of protein that the rice delivers is that it is also accompanied by 40 or more grams of carbs. You have to eat foods that have a higher percentage of protein to carbohydrates to act as a meat replacement. Foods that qualify that I include in my diet are: Tofu, Tempeh, Cottage Cheese, Boca Burgers and Whey protein shakes.
     
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    I just can't bring myself to eat soy containing products...especially after all the estrogenic effect it has on males.

    I also understand that it's not a complete protein.

    But I've thought about being pesco-vegan.

    I just love cow so much.
     
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    Sinister Doctor of Doom Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Keep this in mind, and hopefully the book Mick recommended states this:

    The ONLY source of a COMPLETE protein with all essential aminos is meat. Otherwise you must supplement correctly for good muscle structure and metabolic processing. To get a complete protein, Soy is not enough. Neither is dairy alone, but a combination of Soy, dairy, and legumes will do the trick. And these are needed multiple times a day for ample nutrition.

    I have this discussion a lot because I have a lot of vegetarian and vegan customers who report fatigue, lack of ability to gain muscle mass, excess bodyfat storage, etc. And the main cause of it is the misconception that you can substitute this nutrient source for that, regardless of the origin of the two sources. This is simply not true, and leads to health complications such as weakened immune system, digestive difficulties, etc.
     
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    take another look at the nutrition facts in that link.. it's rice protein but the total carbs equal 1.8 grams..
     

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