Discussion in 'The War Room' started by Torami, May 18, 2014.
Is it enough to quiet the anti-vax crowd or do we need even more studies completed?
Idiots gonna idiot no matter what evidence anyone shows them.
We already know this. Anyone who doesnt isnt going to be swayed by facts or studys.
I'm always equally surprised by how many people think the flu vaccine causes the flu.
How does one determine a possible relationship between vaccination and autism without doing a large scale study that compares the rates of autism spectrum disorders in fully vaccinated versus entirely non-vaccinated children?
I find the continued resistance on the part of the FDA to conduct such a study troubling.
She doesn't care about your "facts".
conduct your own study if you are so troubled by it then. Whilst you are at it, be sure to break it down further to explain the higher rates of autism in males as opposed to females.
Is the vaccination rate higher in males than females? You'll probably need to assess that and address it in your study.
Just watch out for the bad batch.
there is no medical trials, studies, or evidence that links vaccines to autism not one. people are dumb. if populations who didn't get vaccine dropped below 90% you would see diseases and outbreaks rise. look at Africa. if we didn't get shots you would see diseased ravaged areas all over. shit would spread like well a disease. it would be worse here tho. we as americans like to kill spiders, snakes, and all or any animal we deem "bad". when in fact these animals are the primary reason outside of vaccines that keep outbreaks in check. snakes kill rats, rats carry diseases. spiders kill bugs, bugs carry disease. we kill these animals on site. the dumbification of America continues with dipshit celebrities like a non college educated jenny McCarthy. because people like this are at the front of medical research aren't they?
Of course, there couldn't be multiple or compounding environmental factors involved in autism. That would not be simplistic enough for simple minded folks like yourself.
Serious Question: If rates of autism were found to be, for example, 50 percent lower in non-vaccinated versus fully vaccinated children, would that indicate to you anything worthy of further study, relative to a link?
It's funny how, when testing the efficacy of a new drug, it is not only par for the course but mandatory to compare the outcomes against a control group that is not being administered the drug. But if that same approach is suggested relative to vaccinations and their possible side-effects the person making the suggestion is labeled an anti-science loon.
It's also funny to encounter pro-vaxers who are as rabidly uncritical and closed minded as some anti-vaxers.
Drug trials rarely withhold drugs from the control group. It is unethical to do so. When a new drug comes out they compare it to the standard line of treatment available on the market at the time. Before it even reaches that point though, the drug is tested alone with about 100 people to test for safety. You don't need to compare a drug to another to see if it has side-effects (it either does or it doesn't).
Since anyone with knowledge of immunology and epidemiology understands that vaccines are immensely beneficial it would be really unethical to have a control group where we don't vaccinate them.
Why do you demand so much evidence from the pro-vax side while living in the ignorance of COMPLETE lack of evidence on the anti-vax side.
If its as simple as you mention, then why hasnt one serious study come out in the past 30 years. Everything people fear is based on one study by wakefield that was proven to be complete shit. I mean surely some anti vaxxer could have something by now.
or alternatively for someone who is so troubled such as yourself, perhaps it is not environmental at all. Perhaps there are no environmental factors which contribute to autism. Shocking as it may sound it could be entirely genetic.
But that would not be simplistic enough for someone as simple minded as yourself would it?
I thought we had already moved on to SSRIs during pregnancy?
Always a good question to ask. Too bad it will never be answered by the anti-vax crowd. They let someone else do the work, disagree with the findings, but never offer valid rebuttals or evidence proving their case.
i'm just gonna leave this here for the anti-vaxers
although.. everyone should probably read it for the lulz
Haha, what the hell..
This was hysterical.
Such a study would be highly unethical.
In a word? No
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