Usman fighting for money and not legacy

Well i said, some may disagree with Colby getting a rematch. So do you think Masivdial should have gotten his rematch with Usman after losing? Or think Diaz should get a title shot after losing to a ranked 3 WW on 9 fight win streak?
Surely you cannot say Masvidal and Diaz should go ahead of Colby
I think all of these guys are overrated as fuck just cause they fight in the UFC lol. You ppl really are arguing about Masvidal Diaz Burns and Covington as best WWs on the planet lol. It’s crazy
 
I have rated Usman for a while, he worked and fought hard to get to where he is. But it seems with the news coming in that Ali and him are possibly looking at Diaz over Colby is an absolute joke. Clearly he trying to make as much money as he can, and avoid any tough competition.
Leon who is in line for the title fight, just beat the man they want to fight. Clearly they are ducking Leon, ducking Dolby, and hoping Burns deals with WB, and they get a big pay day fighting Nate.

Great legacy Usman is building..
If he wanted to build a legacy and be remembered as a great WW champ, he would sign to fight Colby in the coming months, then if WB beats Burns he can fight WB or Leon in any order.
Luque and Chiesa are fighting soon as well, so he could even fight them if he beats the above 3.

I started to get annoyed with him, when he gave Masvidal an unnecessary title shot. Either Masvidal is on some Conor level where he can demand an instant rematch (which we know he is not) or Usman is looking to pad his title defences and avoid tough competetion. Usman fought Burns in between so its technically not an instant rematch for Usman, but what did Masvidal do? It was an instant rematch for him.

Colby Covington
I know Colby gets a lot of hate, and I can understand why. When he did the whole Trump shtick, and going into the Usman fight, he was annoying and everyone wanted to see Usman shut him up.
But the fight was very close and Colby was even up, and the stoppage was not great, lets face it.
Now Colby has dropped a lot of his Trump talk, and now just name calling everyone and exposing them, I am finding him more entertaining, regardless, people say he doesn't deserve a rematch after beating T Wood? But he deserves it more than Masvidal who did nothing.

I think the Colby fight made Usman realise he can be beaten, and with Burns rocking him early, he knows fighting either Leon, CC 2 or WB, one will likely end in an upset for Usman. Hence why he fought Masvidal twice and is now looking at Nate

Leon Edwards
Poor Leon, boring as hell for a lot of us, but you have to respect his way of winning fights. Since loosing to Usman he has gone undefeated in 9 fights, 10 if you include the no contest.
He has not fought the greatest of fighters, but neither has anyone in the top 5 really as they are all ducking each other in the hope of a title shot. He is also not the most exciting of fighter both in and outside the cage.
Regardless, he has done enough in the WW division to fight Usman over Masvidal's rematch, some may argue not ahead of WB or CC, but he is still due a title shot.

Usman has 3 current top fighters ready to challenge him, and a 4th if you include Luque and Chiesa, you also have Chimaev who maybe a hype job or a real threat, and in the time of the above fights, we will see if Chimaev is worthy.
He can build a great legacy if he beats them all, like Izzy has done cleaning out the MW division. But for some reason Usman seems to not want to face them, and clean out the WW division.

Khabib Nurmagomedov
Khabib is a great example of a fighter who chose legacy over money, he had Conor desperate for the rematch. He had a red panty night begging him, any other fighter would have jumped at it, Khabib told him to go and win some fights then lets see. Say all you want about Khabib, but that shows you what legacy is. Idiots will say he was ducking, but no one would duck a red panty night unless you cared nothing about money and only about legacy and refused to fight someone straight after you beat them.

TLDR

Usman has become a joke and possibly wants to fight Diaz now
He is clearly ducking Colby, Leon and hoping Burns takes WB's head off so he can avoid WB too
He just wants easy money fights that pad his title defences
He has no honour
He does not care about legacy and beating the top WW fighters and cleaning out the division like Izzy in MW
He does not want to face anyone and everyone, as past great legacy fighters like GSP, SIlva, Jones etc have.
What are you doing posting a logical thread here? You'll be accused of being MAGA for defending Colby like that.
 
I think all of these guys are overrated as fuck just cause they fight in the UFC lol. You ppl really are arguing about Masvidal Diaz Burns and Covington as best WWs on the planet lol. It’s crazy
Go watch Jason Jackson and Amosov crotch sniff some bums you loser no one cares about bellasnore expect you hipsters that’s why the org is dying and ONE/PFL have passed them in popularity. Ufc WWs would destroy any of those jock sniffers.
 
Disgruntled Covington fanboy babble.
You have a picture of Trump's face made of dirt or shit as your profile picture. It's pretty clear you are being passive aggressive by discrediting Colby who is a known Trump supporter. I feel sorry for you honestly at this point. So insecure.
 
Go watch Jason Jackson and Amosov crotch sniff some bums you loser no one cares about bellasnore expect you hipsters that’s why the org is dying and ONE/PFL have passed them in popularity. Ufc WWs would destroy any of those jock sniffers.
Feb 2020 join date lmfao
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I think all of these guys are overrated as fuck just cause they fight in the UFC lol. You ppl really are arguing about Masvidal Diaz Burns and Covington as best WWs on the planet lol. It’s crazy
When did we say they are the greatest on earth? I never said that anyway.

I said they are the current top contenders of the current WW division.

I am not arguing about anyone being better than anyone, I am just stating a fact that Usman is choosing easy fights in Masvidal and Diaz and avoiding the real top WW contenders.
 
Disgruntled Covington fanboy babble.
Erm, I said I used to rate Usman and wanted to see him shut Colby up when he was using trump as his gimmick.
Not that I am anti Trump or pro Trump, that's irrelevant to me and not related to 2 guys fighting. I just found the way he was using it a bit cringe.
If you wanna get hung up on someone's political opinion, that's on you. I really do not care if you are red or blue or any other supporter.

I got annoyed at Usman's recent attitude towards his fights, someone who went from fighting anyone, to a Conor wannabe chasing easy money fights to pad his defences. Well even Conor didn't chose easy fights, lets face it. Even Conor challenged himself in that respect, Usman clearly isn't.
I also found around the same time, Colby dropping the MAGA gimmick and exposing fighters for who they are.
If you want to call me a Colby fan boy because I started to like him more than before and more than Usman due to current circumstances, then feel free.

I am just stating a honest opinion from what I see in the current WW division
 
Lol who made you in charge of the rules? Burns wouldn’t even win the PFL WW tourney smh


What a stupid answer..


So is conor a career featherweight then?

Is Bj penn a career Welterweight since he won his first belt there?


Dont be this dumb please
 
Usman ain't no joke. He's fought everyone the UFC has put in front of him since becoming champ and beaten a host of top contenders. So he wants to fight Diaz for a payday? Who can blame him. Yeah would suck for Edwards. But not for Usman...
Who? Colby which was a bad stoppage and Colby was probably up on the score card, Masvidal, Burns, and who was the last? Oh yeah Masvidal again. Great, clearly the WW GOAT, makes GSP look amateur.
 
I have rated Usman for a while, he worked and fought hard to get to where he is. But it seems with the news coming in that Ali and him are possibly looking at Diaz over Colby is an absolute joke. Clearly he trying to make as much money as he can, and avoid any tough competition.
Leon who is in line for the title fight, just beat the man they want to fight. Clearly they are ducking Leon, ducking Dolby, and hoping Burns deals with WB, and they get a big pay day fighting Nate.

Great legacy Usman is building..
If he wanted to build a legacy and be remembered as a great WW champ, he would sign to fight Colby in the coming months, then if WB beats Burns he can fight WB or Leon in any order.
Luque and Chiesa are fighting soon as well, so he could even fight them if he beats the above 3.

I started to get annoyed with him, when he gave Masvidal an unnecessary title shot. Either Masvidal is on some Conor level where he can demand an instant rematch (which we know he is not) or Usman is looking to pad his title defences and avoid tough competetion. Usman fought Burns in between so its technically not an instant rematch for Usman, but what did Masvidal do? It was an instant rematch for him.

Colby Covington
I know Colby gets a lot of hate, and I can understand why. When he did the whole Trump shtick, and going into the Usman fight, he was annoying and everyone wanted to see Usman shut him up.
But the fight was very close and Colby was even up, and the stoppage was not great, lets face it.
Now Colby has dropped a lot of his Trump talk, and now just name calling everyone and exposing them, I am finding him more entertaining, regardless, people say he doesn't deserve a rematch after beating T Wood? But he deserves it more than Masvidal who did nothing.

I think the Colby fight made Usman realise he can be beaten, and with Burns rocking him early, he knows fighting either Leon, CC 2 or WB, one will likely end in an upset for Usman. Hence why he fought Masvidal twice and is now looking at Nate

Leon Edwards
Poor Leon, boring as hell for a lot of us, but you have to respect his way of winning fights. Since loosing to Usman he has gone undefeated in 9 fights, 10 if you include the no contest.
He has not fought the greatest of fighters, but neither has anyone in the top 5 really as they are all ducking each other in the hope of a title shot. He is also not the most exciting of fighter both in and outside the cage.
Regardless, he has done enough in the WW division to fight Usman over Masvidal's rematch, some may argue not ahead of WB or CC, but he is still due a title shot.

Usman has 3 current top fighters ready to challenge him, and a 4th if you include Luque and Chiesa, you also have Chimaev who maybe a hype job or a real threat, and in the time of the above fights, we will see if Chimaev is worthy.
He can build a great legacy if he beats them all, like Izzy has done cleaning out the MW division. But for some reason Usman seems to not want to face them, and clean out the WW division.

Khabib Nurmagomedov
Khabib is a great example of a fighter who chose legacy over money, he had Conor desperate for the rematch. He had a red panty night begging him, any other fighter would have jumped at it, Khabib told him to go and win some fights then lets see. Say all you want about Khabib, but that shows you what legacy is. Idiots will say he was ducking, but no one would duck a red panty night unless you cared nothing about money and only about legacy and refused to fight someone straight after you beat them.

TLDR

Usman has become a joke and possibly wants to fight Diaz now
He is clearly ducking Colby, Leon and hoping Burns takes WB's head off so he can avoid WB too
He just wants easy money fights that pad his title defences
He has no honour
He does not care about legacy and beating the top WW fighters and cleaning out the division like Izzy in MW
He does not want to face anyone and everyone, as past great legacy fighters like GSP, SIlva, Jones etc have.
I didn't read all of that but I can agree with some sentiments. That's what annoyed me about Usman is after he got the 1.3 million ppv buys, he acts as if he's made it. When he knocked out masvidal, I think in his head he solidified that he's made it. He acts like a larger than life superstar but I. My opinion has a subpar resume. Has a few good names but let's be honest it pails in comparison to other great p4p fighters even currently.

Part of this he can't help. You fight who's in front of you. But at the same time, it just annoying that you're knocking out journeymen and acting like you're a megastar now.

I'm still a fan though but man is it annoying. I get it though he's not khabib. He's not Conor. He won't always make big money fights. He's not going to sell out shows and ppvs. He has to capitalize and if he knocks out Nate, it would being in more casuals but still not aa great look
 
I have rated Usman for a while, he worked and fought hard to get to where he is. But it seems with the news coming in that Ali and him are possibly looking at Diaz over Colby is an absolute joke. Clearly he trying to make as much money as he can, and avoid any tough competition.
Leon who is in line for the title fight, just beat the man they want to fight. Clearly they are ducking Leon, ducking Dolby, and hoping Burns deals with WB, and they get a big pay day fighting Nate.

Great legacy Usman is building..
If he wanted to build a legacy and be remembered as a great WW champ, he would sign to fight Colby in the coming months, then if WB beats Burns he can fight WB or Leon in any order.
Luque and Chiesa are fighting soon as well, so he could even fight them if he beats the above 3.

I started to get annoyed with him, when he gave Masvidal an unnecessary title shot. Either Masvidal is on some Conor level where he can demand an instant rematch (which we know he is not) or Usman is looking to pad his title defences and avoid tough competetion. Usman fought Burns in between so its technically not an instant rematch for Usman, but what did Masvidal do? It was an instant rematch for him.

Colby Covington
I know Colby gets a lot of hate, and I can understand why. When he did the whole Trump shtick, and going into the Usman fight, he was annoying and everyone wanted to see Usman shut him up.
But the fight was very close and Colby was even up, and the stoppage was not great, lets face it.
Now Colby has dropped a lot of his Trump talk, and now just name calling everyone and exposing them, I am finding him more entertaining, regardless, people say he doesn't deserve a rematch after beating T Wood? But he deserves it more than Masvidal who did nothing.

I think the Colby fight made Usman realise he can be beaten, and with Burns rocking him early, he knows fighting either Leon, CC 2 or WB, one will likely end in an upset for Usman. Hence why he fought Masvidal twice and is now looking at Nate

Leon Edwards
Poor Leon, boring as hell for a lot of us, but you have to respect his way of winning fights. Since loosing to Usman he has gone undefeated in 9 fights, 10 if you include the no contest.
He has not fought the greatest of fighters, but neither has anyone in the top 5 really as they are all ducking each other in the hope of a title shot. He is also not the most exciting of fighter both in and outside the cage.
Regardless, he has done enough in the WW division to fight Usman over Masvidal's rematch, some may argue not ahead of WB or CC, but he is still due a title shot.

Usman has 3 current top fighters ready to challenge him, and a 4th if you include Luque and Chiesa, you also have Chimaev who maybe a hype job or a real threat, and in the time of the above fights, we will see if Chimaev is worthy.
He can build a great legacy if he beats them all, like Izzy has done cleaning out the MW division. But for some reason Usman seems to not want to face them, and clean out the WW division.

Khabib Nurmagomedov
Khabib is a great example of a fighter who chose legacy over money, he had Conor desperate for the rematch. He had a red panty night begging him, any other fighter would have jumped at it, Khabib told him to go and win some fights then lets see. Say all you want about Khabib, but that shows you what legacy is. Idiots will say he was ducking, but no one would duck a red panty night unless you cared nothing about money and only about legacy and refused to fight someone straight after you beat them.

TLDR

Usman has become a joke and possibly wants to fight Diaz now
He is clearly ducking Colby, Leon and hoping Burns takes WB's head off so he can avoid WB too
He just wants easy money fights that pad his title defences
He has no honour
He does not care about legacy and beating the top WW fighters and cleaning out the division like Izzy in MW
He does not want to face anyone and everyone, as past great legacy fighters like GSP, SIlva, Jones etc have.

You lost me when you try to explain Colby deserves a title shot.
Either you know he does not and add him to the list of people he should not fight, or you are quite frankly, being a hypocrite.
And before you try to defend yourself by claiming he deserves more than Masvidal, while that is true, it does NOT translates to "he deserves it".
 
We need to reach a consesus on Sherdog:

If fighters don't make enough money, they shouldn't be bashed for going for the money fights.

Honor doesn't feed that man's daughter.
 
Technically, Usman has beaten both Colby and Leon already. The Leon fight though was a long time ago and both have improved even though I’d still favor Usman.

But Colby isn’t deserving of a rematch just yet. He got dropped twice in the first fight and Usman literally broke his face. He’s only beaten a past prime Woodley since then while Usman has beaten far tougher competition.

Considering how active Usman has been this year, I’d give him the Nate fight as a token of appreciation followed by Leon.

The only other fighter in the division Usman hasn’t fought is Wonderboy. Given his age, I’d like to see that fight happen sooner rather than later.
No. Masvidal rematch was already a token of appreciation. Did you honestly think for a moment in the first fight, Masvidal had a chance?
 
We need to reach a consesus on Sherdog:

If fighters don't make enough money, they shouldn't be bashed for going for the money fights.

Honor doesn't feed that man's daughter.
Not if you are a champion.
 
It's his life and he wants to make money. Lifes to short to be worried about what random people on the internet think of you.
 
You lost me when you try to explain Colby deserves a title shot.
Either you know he does not and add him to the list of people he should not fight, or you are quite frankly, being a hypocrite.
And before you try to defend yourself by claiming he deserves more than Masvidal, while that is true, it does NOT translates to "he deserves it".
I think he deserves off the basis of having a very close fight with Usman, where the stoppage was unnecessary, and he beat T Wood. I do not need to defend my opinion, and my point is aimed at Usman ducking top contenders and choosing easy money fights over them. Maybe I should gone into more detail on why the top 5 WW's deserve it over Diaz, as opposed to going into detail on why Usman seems to be avoiding them. From what I see, they all want that Usman fight, but he apparently wants to give it to Diaz.
 
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