International US to end LGBT suicide prevention service, says general hotline sufficient

[Takes Two To Tango]

The hell did you think this thread was about? No, any organization "specializing in LGBT services" is almost certain to do more harm than good.

The existing 988 is already a network with thousands of people working for it, it's not Zach Morris calling himself Nitro to hand out shit advice. The NGO that runs the existing 988 network is called Vibrant Emotional Health, and if you'd life to send them an email telling them to hire more trannies, feel free, or you can give your own money to the Trevor Project, but it is not up to taxpayers to cover massive salaries for advocacy groups to spread gender ideology.

How is it going to do more harm than good?

 

[badascan]

Instead of buying that next mokachino or donating to racial agitation, maybe donate to a cause like mentally unstable people being mentally unstable if you care or if it gains you virtue points... I don't want my tax dollars going to this so if the government not funding it is doing that then I approve.

*Edit: and frankly, if more people than ever who fit into this box are killing themselves then perhaps the funding was misused or is ineffective. Why keep paying for something that doesn't work?

 

[Croo67]

Plenty of other services available.

Why should they have their own service?

 

[Crazy Source]

Plenty of other services available.

Why should they have their own service?

Because they have a higher rate of suicide and the gov't is SUPPOSED to help its citizens.

 

[ImCertainOfCirkunov]

How do you have four friends who have transitioned?

Yeah, that guy is full of shit. Whenever I hear stories about people having multiple friends, acquaintances or family members transitioning I really have to ask where the fuck these people live?

I live in a large city in super progressive Canada and have met like 5-6 trans people in my entire life. And for good reason, they are a miniscule subset of the population.

It always seems to be a certain type of poster with a certain type of views that somehow, coincidentally, know scores of trans folk. Interesting to think about.

On topic, bit of an odd choice considering the rebuttal from the admin is that they haven't cut any funding. So no money is saved, what exactly is the benefit here other than throwing red meat to base? To help distract them from the next forever war the admin is currently signing up for?

 

[Stoic1]

Because they have a higher rate of suicide and the gov't is SUPPOSED to help its citizens.

Ive been told socialized health care, such as Canada's, is superior to the US.

How would they tackle this problem?

 

[Crazy Source]

Ive been told socialized health care, such as Canada's, is superior to the US.

How would they tackle this problem?

How the fuck would I know? We are talking about a suicide hotline for gay/trans people.

 

[Stoic1]

How the fuck would I know? We are talking about a suicide hotline for gay/trans people.

I'm saying it's a healthcare issue.

And I think Canada has it figured out.

And you know exactly what I mean.

 

[Crazy Source]

I'm saying it's a healthcare issue.

And I think Canada has it figured out.

And you know exactly what I mean.

I really don't and have no idea why you are bringing it up. We are talking about a gay/trans suicide hotline in America.

 

[ImCertainOfCirkunov]

Seems to me right wingers should be on board with the specialized help line for trans folk. I mean, they're constantly going on about how fucked in the head these people are. And you know what? I don't fully disagree.

Your average crisis counselor is dealing with people who want to off themselves due to failed marriages, lack of love and connection, economic issues, etc. I would suggest dealing with someone who actually thinks they're trapped in the wrong body needs a bit of specialization.

And in their heart of hearts, the right wingers fully agree with the above. The thing is, and what most won't openly admit, is they simply don't give a fuck. Let em' die, right guys?

 

[Crazy Source]

Seems to me right wingers should be on board with the specialized help line for trans folk. I mean, they're constantly going on about how fucked in the head these people are. And you know what? I don't fully disagree.

Your average crisis counselor is dealing with people who want to off themselves due to failed marriages, lack of love and connection, economic issues, etc. I would suggest dealing with someone who actually thinks they're trapped in the wrong body needs a bit of specialization.

And in their heart of hearts, the right wingers fully agree with the above. The thing is, and what most won't openly admit, is they simply don't give a fuck. Let em' die, right guys?

See post #30.

 

[cincymma79]

Yeah, that guy is full of shit. Whenever I hear stories about people having multiple friends, acquaintances or family members transitioning I really have to ask where the fuck these people live?

I live in a large city in super progressive Canada and have met like 5-6 trans people in my entire life. And for good reason, they are a miniscule subset of the population.

It always seems to be a certain type of poster with a certain type of views that somehow, coincidentally, know scores of trans folk. Interesting to think about.

On topic, bit of an odd choice considering the rebuttal from the admin is that they haven't cut any funding. So no money is saved, what exactly is the benefit here other than throwing red meat to base? To help distract them from the next forever war the admin is currently signing up for?

It’s a nothing burger that these purple hair types go wild for. Sometimes I think these things get done just to watch them piss themselves

 

[Croo67]

Because they have a higher rate of suicide and the gov't is SUPPOSED to help its citizens.

Is there a correlation between their suicide rocketing and mental asylums being closed?

 

[Crazy Source]

Is there a correlation between their suicide rocketing and mental asylums being closed?

How the fuck would I know? You guys come up with the dumbest fucking questions to try to make a point. Just say what you want to say and stop being a pussy about it.

 

[Croo67]

How the fuck would I know? You guys come up with the dumbest fucking questions to try to make a point. Just say what you want to say and stop being a pussy about it.

Perhaps men who want to dress up like women would be saved if there was a secure facility to house them in.

 

[Lycandroid]

Yeah, that guy is full of shit. Whenever I hear stories about people having multiple friends, acquaintances or family members transitioning I really have to ask where the fuck these people live?

I live in a large city in super progressive Canada and have met like 5-6 trans people in my entire life. And for good reason, they are a miniscule subset of the population.

It always seems to be a certain type of poster with a certain type of views that somehow, coincidentally, know scores of trans folk. Interesting to think about.

On topic, bit of an odd choice considering the rebuttal from the admin is that they haven't cut any funding. So no money is saved, what exactly is the benefit here other than throwing red meat to base? To help distract them from the next forever war the admin is currently signing up for?

Oh fuck off, I live in a Canadian progressive city too, you could go to any Pride event and meet 5-6 trans people. If you live in a super progressive Canadian city and have only met 5-6 trans people in your entire life, you probably don't get out very much.

 

[Crazy Source]

Perhaps men who want to dress up like women would be saved if there was a secure facility to house them in.

There are already mental facilities people can check themselves into when they are having problems. We are talking about a suicide hotline, though. Let's stick to the subject. Why shouldn't the gov't help people that have a high suicide rate?

 

[nostradumbass]

How is it going to do more harm than good?

Have teen suicide rates, anxiety and depression and medication increased or decreased in the last 15 years since the ubiquitous woke shit? More specifically, how do they look specifically among left wing target audiences like teenagers, single women under 35 and "the lgbt community"?

There is no question that the specifically liberal audiences most receptive to the woke shit have ludicrous rates of depression and mental illness. They clearly have already done significant harm.

How about you do what everyone throughout history did until 5 minutes ago and not tell some awkward kid they were probably born in the wrong body and the world is out to get them?

 

[Stoic1]

There are already mental facilities people can check themselves into when they are having problems. We are talking about a suicide hotline, though. Let's stick to the subject. Why shouldn't the gov't help people that have a high suicide rate?

To be serious for a moment.

Anything run by the government is ridiculously inefficient and lacks any sort of accountability. The government coming to "help" is literally the worst option available.

Either volunteer run or privatized if you want actual results.

I would equate this with Veteran's suicides. They have lots of options but if you are going to open the VA door for that one I hope for the best. I've known way over a dozen vets that have pulled the plug. I've been to 7 of their funerals/memorials. Almost all of them had reached out. The only ones I've known who managed to reach out and stay alive were ones who chose faith based options, whether it be their chaplain or local community churches. The telephone call usually just lets someone know where to find the body in my experience.

 

[Crazy Source]

To be serious for a moment.

Anything run by the government is ridiculously inefficient and lacks any sort of accountability. The government coming to "help" is literally the worst option available.

Either volunteer run or privatized if you want actual results.

I would equate this with Veteran's suicides. They have lots of options but if you are going to open the VA door for that one I hope for the best. I've known way over a dozen vets that have pulled the plug. I've been to 7 of their funerals/memorials. Almost all of them had reached out. The only ones I've known who managed to reach out and stay alive were ones who chose faith based options, whether it be their chaplain or local community churches. The telephone call usually just lets someone know where to find the body in my experience.

That's rough, my man. However, relying on volunteers and private entities has no guarantees that anything will happen. Running a suicide hotline funded by the gov't sounds cheap (relatively speaking it's a drop in the bucket) and a good thing to do. Anonymity is an important factor here also. A gay/trans person might be wary of approaching anyone for obvious reasons.