US Supreme Court Upholds Ridiculous Voter Suppression Law

[luckyshot]

Thanks Gorsuch.

"By a 5-4 margin, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a controversial Ohio voter-purge law.

It's known as the "use-it-or-lose-it" law, and it's the most aggressive voter-purge system in the country. The state currently strikes voters from the registration rolls if they fail to vote in two consecutive elections — and if they fail to return a mailed address confirmation form.

Those challenging the law said it violated the National Voting Rights Act, which says that a state cannot strike someone from the rolls for failure to vote. The emphasis is to get more people to vote — and not have them purged.

The lead plaintiff in the case, Larry Harmon, is a software engineer from the Akron area, who normally votes in presidential election years, but not the midterms. In 2012, neither Barack Obama nor Mitt Romney excited him, so he decided not to vote.

When he did decide to vote a couple of years later, he found he was no longer registered. He had been purged from the voter rolls, because he hadn't voted in the previous two elections."

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/11/618870982/supreme-court-upholds-controversial-ohio-voter-purge-law

EDIT:
It is important to realize that, in practice, a law like this hurts the poor (as it is designed to do).

Poor people are more likely to miss elections due to a variety of factors-- from a broken down car to a sick kid to having to work a second job.

In addition, poor people change addresses more frequently due to economic hardship and are, therefore, more likely to have to "re-register."

 

[Gutter Chris]

Seems like a pretty easy thing to defeat

If you go out and vote this wont get ya

Also voter id laws are very easy to defeat as well simply by taking the 2 years you have between elections and doing a little paper work

If republicans are defeating the liberals with these kind of tactics than we deserve to lose this aint shit

 

[luckyshot]

Seems like a pretty easy thing to defeat

If you go out and vote this wont get ya

Also voter id laws are very easy to defeat as well simply by taking the 2 years you have between elections and doing a little paper work

If republicans are defeating the liberals with these kind of tactics than we deserve to lose this aint shit

It's still a terrible ruling that directly violates the spirit of the National Voting Rights Act.

Voting is a right. Once you are registered, you are supposed to be able to vote-- or not-- in any election you want, period.

There aren't supposed to be a bunch of additional hoops to jump through. Voting is a right that is supposed to be "unimpinged" upon-- you know, kind of like owning an AR-15.

Just imagine if we told gun owners they had to go to the firing range and practice their accuracy so many times a year and also had to return mailers or else they'd lose their gun license. How would that go over?

 

[KILL KILL]

Voters should have the right to choose when and how they use their vote.

This law forces people to vote in elections they may not want to in order to retain the ability to vote in future elections.

I don't see the logic behind this at all.

 

[Lord Coke]

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/17pdf/16-980_f2q3.pdf

There is the decision I haven't read it yet.

 

[Gutter Chris]

It's still a terrible law that directly violates the spirit of the National Voting Rights Act.

Voting is a right. Once you are registered, you are supposed to be able to vote, period.

There aren't supposed to be a bunch of additional hoops to jump through.

Voting is a right that is supposed to be "unimpinged" upon-- you know, kind of like owning an AR-15.

Dude I agree with ya in spirit

Its just that these are the tactics republicans use to win and we are well aware and have more than enough time to counter it

I dont expect a leopard to change its spots so lets beat em at their own games this time sted of crying about it after we lose

 

[second sight]

how many times do we hear about there being mow people registered to vote than people who actually live there?

people move, die, etc

 

[Gutter Chris]

Voters should have the right to choose when and how they use their vote.

This law forces people to vote in elections they may not want to in order to retain the ability to vote in future elections.

I don't see the logic behind this at all.

The logic is that lower voter turn out helps republicans win so they do all they can to make that happen

I agree its horse shit

 

[Witchhunt]

It's a data mining operation. No current data, no vote...

Get with the times people....

 

[nac386]

I don't understand why this would be allowed, or why anybody would even want it to be allowed. I don't have time to read about it right now, but what was the defense for this?

 

[irish_thug]

Just imagine if we told gun owners they had to go to the firing range and practice their accuracy so many times a month and also had to return mailers or else they'd lose their gun license. How would that go over?

Great idea. But I love going to the range.

 

[woodguyatl]

Thanks Gorsuch.

"By a 5-4 margin, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a controversial Ohio voter-purge law.

It's known as the "use-it-or-lose-it" law, and it's the most aggressive voter-purge system in the country. The state currently strikes voters from the registration rolls if they fail to vote in two consecutive elections — and if they fail to return a mailed address confirmation form.

Those challenging the law said it violated the National Voting Rights Act, which says that a state cannot strike someone from the rolls for failure to vote. The emphasis is to get more people to vote — and not have them purged.

The lead plaintiff in the case, Larry Harmon, is a software engineer from the Akron area, who normally votes in presidential election years, but not the midterms. In 2012, neither Barack Obama nor Mitt Romney excited him, so he decided not to vote.

When he did decide to vote a couple of years later, he found he was no longer registered. He had been purged from the voter rolls, because he hadn't voted in the previous two elections."

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/11/618870982/supreme-court-upholds-controversial-ohio-voter-purge-law

The irony is that if this law was in place, Trump would most likely never have been elected, and Gorsuch would have never been a SCOTUS judge.

But hey, at least the gays can't get their cake, emirite?

I think all states should have the same voter registration as the great, and Conservative State of North Dakota.

 

[luckyshot]

I think all states should have the same voter registration as the great, and Conservative State of North Dakota.

What policies are those?

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Thanks Gorsuch.

"By a 5-4 margin, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a controversial Ohio voter-purge law.

It's known as the "use-it-or-lose-it" law, and it's the most aggressive voter-purge system in the country. The state currently strikes voters from the registration rolls if they fail to vote in two consecutive elections — and if they fail to return a mailed address confirmation form.

Those challenging the law said it violated the National Voting Rights Act, which says that a state cannot strike someone from the rolls for failure to vote. The emphasis is to get more people to vote — and not have them purged.

The lead plaintiff in the case, Larry Harmon, is a software engineer from the Akron area, who normally votes in presidential election years, but not the midterms. In 2012, neither Barack Obama nor Mitt Romney excited him, so he decided not to vote.

When he did decide to vote a couple of years later, he found he was no longer registered. He had been purged from the voter rolls, because he hadn't voted in the previous two elections."

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/11/618870982/supreme-court-upholds-controversial-ohio-voter-purge-law

The irony is that if this law was in place, Trump would most likely never have been elected, and Gorsuch would have never been a SCOTUS judge.

But hey, at least the gays can't get their cake, emirite?

What am I missing? Sounds like 5 judges said the law was ok when there are only 3 far right judges.

 

[woodguyatl]

I think all states should have the same educational standards as the great, and Liberal State of Massachusetts.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education

Switching the voter registration system to the North Dakota model would result in a 100% savings and cost zero dollars. Switching to a Massachusetts level would require a significant investment in education, but yeah, I'd support that.

 

[woodguyatl]

What policies are those?

They have no voter registration at all.

"North Dakota bears the unique distinction that it does not require voters to register prior to Election Day. You may simply bring acceptable proof of ID and residency to the polls in order to vote (see below). Each precinct is responsible for governing its own election process, and the Secretary of State has a "central voter file" in which all county auditors share their precinct's voter list."

 

[luckyshot]

They have no voter registration at all.

They are the only state in the country that doesn't require any form of ID to vote, right?

 

[woodguyatl]

They are the only state in the country that doesn't require any form of ID to vote, right?

They require ID and some proof of residence but it can be presented when you appear to vote. No required pre-registration.

 

[panamaican]

This is one of those opinions where I really need to read the dissent. My general understanding is that Ohio's model follows the National Voter Registration Act's rules on removing names from the list. Obviously, there must be more to it than that for this to be split 5-4.

 

[KILL KILL]

They have no voter registration at all.

"North Dakota bears the unique distinction that it does not require voters to register prior to Election Day. You may simply bring acceptable proof of ID and residency to the polls in order to vote (see below). Each precinct is responsible for governing its own election process, and the Secretary of State has a "central voter file" in which all county auditors share their precinct's voter list."

That actually sounds like a really good idea.