US President allegedly approves sale of upgraded F-22 to Israel

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In a surprise move, President Donald Trump has reportedly approved the sale of an upgraded F-22 Raptor variant to Israel, with a number of sources alleging Defense Secretary Mark Esper confirmed the sale to Israeli authorities during an official visit to Israel, which raises the question, can Australia and other allies like Japan get their hands on the platform?

Designed to establish and maintain air superiority or air dominance, fighter aircraft have evolved from relatively simple wood and canvas air frames during the First World War, to the highly manoeuvrable, long-range aircraft that dominated the skies of Europe and the Pacific during the Second World War.


The latest two generations of fighter aircraft combining advanced avionics, sensor systems and equally advanced weapons systems, in conjunction with survivable, agile and high-speed airframes and now low observability characteristics ranging from specialised shaping to radar absorbing and scattering materials, serve to establish these aircraft as the pinnacle of these earlier designs.

While platforms like the F-15 Eagle, F/A-18 Hornet, Eurofighter Typhoon, Russia's Su-27 and Su-30 series and China's own J-10 and locally 'developed' carrier-based Su-30-based J-15 will all serve as the bulk of most contemporary air forces, fifth-generation aircraft are growing in proliferation and capability as the dawn of a new era reshapes the modern aerial battlespace for many nations, including Australia.

Designed from the outset to be the world's premier air superiority platform, building on the impressive legacy established by the F-15 Eagle series, the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor combines all-aspect stealth even when armed, low-probability-of-intercept radar, high-performance air frames, advanced avionics and highly integrated computer systems, these aircraft provide unrivalled air dominance, situational awareness, networking, interdiction and strike capabilities for commanders to provide an uncompromising fifth-generation air combat capability for the US Air Force, albeit in an exceptionally limited number.


https://www.defenceconnect.com.au/s...edly-approves-sale-of-upgraded-f-22-to-israel

WHAT THE FUCK?

i hope to god this isnt real this jet is insanely classfied, no way this is true...

To many risks of the tech falling into the wrong hands. i could believe it if the british asked for it, but Israel? Hell no..
 
Why not? We sell F35 to the Arabs who fund terrorists. Either lets not sell top weapons OR sell them for a lot to our allies.
 
Why not? We sell F35 to the Arabs who fund terrorists. Either lets not sell top weapons OR sell them for a lot to our allies.


Because its way more advanced then the F-35, we'd have to retool and rebuild the facilities to produce the fighters.

If we're gonna do that, the YF-23 would be the better option to build. And the only good thing about doing this, that could buy more F-22s to phase out the F-15E and F-15s, but even so...

The 6th generation fighter is coming....why do that? If anyone needs an F-22 its the navy for fucking up theyre long range strike capabilities after ditching the F-14.
 
This is stupid move and lol at "selling"
 
It's been on the cards for a little while. Why are you bothered they would have F22s?

It's not like they would use them on one of YOUR ships...ooops, my mistake.



Jeez, with those things they would mess you up so bad and fast that next time you'd not know it was them and blame Egypt or someone...
 
US is testing 6th gen aren't they, Raptor is old tech nowadays.

Might as well let em money of it, why stop the Jews Aussies or Japanese from spending 100 billion dollars on Raptors.
 
Exactly where are our f-22's? Australians have been wanting some for years.
 
US is testing 6th gen aren't they, Raptor is old tech nowadays.

Might as well let em money of it, why stop the Jews Aussies or Japanese from spending 100 billion dollars on Raptors.

it would have new computers and avoinics
 
It's been on the cards for a little while. Why are you bothered they would have F22s?

It's not like they would use them on one of YOUR ships...ooops, my mistake.



Jeez, with those things they would mess you up so bad and fast that next time you'd not know it was them and blame Egypt or someone...

(Uss liberty) it was no big deal - Ben shapiro
 
US is testing 6th gen aren't they, Raptor is old tech nowadays.

Might as well let em money of it, why stop the Jews Aussies or Japanese from spending 100 billion dollars on Raptors.

Hello,

Could you kindly direct me to a good source (article/video) on rumors for this 6th gen plane?

Thanks,

-P4P
 
Wouldn't they have to rebuild the production facilities? All that stuff is gone.
 
It’s not really a “sale” though. These aircraft will be “purchased” with the billions of American tax dollars in foreign military aid we give to Israel every year to subsidize their national defense. We’re actually paying them to take these F-22s off our hands...
 
Why not? We sell F35 to the Arabs who fund terrorists. Either lets not sell top weapons OR sell them for a lot to our allies.

It is common practice to strip key features of weapons sold to other countries. The F-35 is made to not dog fight but to fire missiles at range. Without those smarts, it really isn't a F-35.
 
He's already given Saudi Arabia 100 billion in arms. As long as he thinks he gets a good deal he doesn't give a shit. Goldfish brain.......
 
I don't know why people constantly bring up the USS liberty when friendly fire or mistaken targets happens every single day.
 
Exactly where are our f-22's? Australians have been wanting some for years.
I think you guys have enough already with Kangaroos, boomerangs, bogans, and various peoples of the pacific Islands...
 
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