University drops math as a requirement. May replace it with "Diversity"

[ProBoxingInsidr]

wayne state no longer has math as a requirement. and it looks like it may be replaced with classes in diversity.

wow, college is crashing and burning. how long before you can become a doctor just by taking classes where you talk about your feelings?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...general-requirement-will-replace-it-diversity

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

So? Math is taught all throughout public school. How much more do liberal arts majors need? If math is key to a particular discipline then those people will learn what's required.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Sounds bad, but a diversity credit, which includes all kinds of classes was required when I went to college 10 years ago, and there are degrees where a college level math credit doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

should eliminate all forced electives and only make students take courses directly related to their degree. If a student wants to learn about something else, let them - but dont make it a requirement.

save kids money, fast track them through school and alleviates bs scenarios like this.

 

[BLIND]

So? Math is taught all throughout public school. How much more do liberal arts majors need? If math is key to a particular discipline then those people will learn what's required.

Are you attempting to argue that a Diversity course should replace math? Bc that's what the thread is about. Math isn't simply being dropped (which would make your argument 100% fine) but it's being REPLACED by Diversity as a required course for all majors.

Correct me if I misunderstood either you or the thread.

 

[Pixelated Porn]

So? Math is taught all throughout public school. How much more do liberal arts majors need? If math is key to a particular discipline then those people will learn what's required.

diversity classes are pointless. math is not. a college student should be rounded with english, math, and sciences.

we don't need racist classes like diversity

 

[KILL KILL]

should eliminate all forced electives and only make students take courses directly related to their degree. If a student wants to learn about something else, let them - but dont make it a requirement.

save kids money, fast track them through school and alleviates bs scenarios like this.

I agree. Most freshman level college students spend their first year taking BS classes completely unrelated to their major. Universities should be treated more like a trade school. Students should have a decent enough grasp in writing and mathematics by the time they reach the college level.

 

[KILL KILL]

diversity classes are pointless. math is not. a college student should be rounded with english, math, and sciences.

we don't need racist classes like diversity

I agree diversity classes are a silly choice. However, I do believe there are too many required classes unrelated to ones major. For instance, I was a business major and required 2 science classes. One science class, is ok, but nothing I learned in chemistry has been applicable to any job I've had since.

 

[RIPWarrior]

That's some hardcore brainwashing. The younger the better. Soon children will be learning all about diversity!

 

[Jack V Savage]

should eliminate all forced electives and only make students take courses directly related to their degree. If a student wants to learn about something else, let them - but dont make it a requirement.

save kids money, fast track them through school and alleviates bs scenarios like this.

I think that's a Philistine position. What is the point of education? Just to make people better or more-attractive employees? I don't buy that.

But, of course, this story is being misreported. It's just that the university is letting the individual programs and majors decide on math requirements.

 

[ncordless]

I agree. Most freshman level college students spend their first year taking BS classes completely unrelated to their major. Universities should be treated more like a trade school. Students should have a decent enough grasp in writing and mathematics by the time they reach the college level.

Perhaps you should go to trade school if you want to learn a trade. You go to college to get an education, not to learn a trade or a specific job.

 

[Tigerknee]

I don't think this is a good idea. All though they seem annoying, I think they add value to the degree

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Are you attempting to argue that a Diversity course should replace math? Bc that's what the thread is about. Math isn't simply being dropped (which would make your argument 100% fine) but it's being REPLACED by Diversity as a required course for all majors.

Correct me if I misunderstood either you or the thread.

What I said wasn't that confusing. I'll repeat, not having kids take a math credit, whose majors don't require that particular knowledge, is no big loss. I don't know anything about the diversity course, but I figure it's stupid liberal bullshit.

diversity classes are pointless. math is not. a college student should be rounded with english, math, and sciences.

we don't need racist classes like diversity

Who is we? Don't go to the university if you don't like their requirements. Get a degree elsewhere. In the meantime, if kids aren't learning the math they need for general use in life then your problem appears to be with the public school system.

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

wayne state no longer has math as a requirement. and it looks like it may be replaced with classes in diversity.

wow, college is crashing and burning. how long before you can become a doctor just by taking classes where you talk about your feelings?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...general-requirement-will-replace-it-diversity

Holy shit.

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

So? Math is taught all throughout public school. How much more do liberal arts majors need? If math is key to a particular discipline then those people will learn what's required.

World needs more people that are math literate. Is more "Diversity" classes in college really what we need? Is that teaching the students anything? Mind you this is a PC fluff class not some hard hitting sociology class that gets down to the roots of "Critical Race Theory".

 

[Awesomesauce]

I think that's a Philistine position. What is the point of education? Just to make people better or more-attractive employees? I don't buy that.

But, of course, this story is being misreported. It's just that the university is letting the individual programs and majors decide on math requirements.

Thank you, you just saved me a great deal of emotional fatigue.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

I think that's a Philistine position. What is the point of education? Just to make people better or more-attractive employees? I don't buy that.

But, of course, this story is being misreported. It's just that the university is letting the individual programs and majors decide on math requirements.

I wholeheartedly agree that the main point of university / post secondary is to obtain a future in employment. That's why schools tout graduates to employment stats. It's why co-ops and PEY's are had. It's why they actively have job fairs on campus. It's why 88% of freshman at UCLA cite "future employment" as to why they decided to go to college

Why not have the base option degree specific - have students only mandated to focus on classes that relate to their degree and if they want to take any other classes they can do so - just not mandatory

It would save the majority of students time, money and debt.

 

[KILL KILL]

Perhaps you should go to trade school if you want to learn a trade. You go to college to get an education, not to learn a trade or a specific job.

That's fine. That doesn't mean chemistry would apply to someone seeking a business major. That is a class that should be covered in high school.

 

[Awesomesauce]

I wholeheartedly agree that the main point of university / post secondary is to obtain a future in employment. That's why schools tout graduates to employment stats. It's why co-ops and PEY's are had. It's why they actively have job fairs on campus. It's why 88% of freshman at UCLA cite "future employment" as to why they decided to go to college

Why not have the base option degree specific - have students only mandated to focus on classes that relate to their degree and if they want to take any other classes they can do so - just not mandatory

It would save the majority of students time, money and debt.

But would reduce the overall ability of students to operate as intellectuals and good citizens. I think the focus on individual productivity in modern society is damaging. Its an interesting dilemma, as demand for labor drops, competitiveness increases, which drives up individual productivity, which drives down demand for labor.

Just as we should be getting more free time then ever we are increasingly finding ourselves cutting out inefficient parts of our life in order to become more effective machines.

 

[ncordless]

That's fine. That doesn't mean chemistry would apply to someone seeking a business major. That is a class that should be covered in high school.

It's not like you had to do chemistry. There were other offerings. And it's not about applying chemistry to business. It is abiut learning how to learn. Because "business" often involves all kinds of things that won't be covered in business school. To be good at "business" you will need to learn things particular to whay the company does. Some companies even use some chemistry I hear.