Crime United Healthcare CEO assassinated in NYC

[RoastBeast]

It’s the system doing what it does. They know that all of us should rightfully sympathetic to the cause so now they’re working overtime trying to turn it into a partisan issue and throw all this other dirt at it.

I feel like us war roomers are pretty good at making everything partisan without needing the system to tell us to do it lol

 

[jefferz]

That's because you think anybody who criticizes any democrat is a "diehard republican".

If you think the baseline cost to put a cast on someone's arm is $95,000 and that is not upcharging anything, then you are clearly a diehard democrat.

Well bud, there was stuff like capping drug prices, capping the fees doctors could charge, etc in the Affordable Care Act when it was introduced.

Guess who demanded it be removed?

Up until the Biden admin, Medicare could not legally negotiate drug prices. They had to pay whatever the drug companies decided to charge the government.

 

[Sinister]

Respectfully, it sounds like you are changing what I said to fit your interpretation.

I made a joke about how you can't murder shitty people. That's it, my man.


You then followed by arguing that, well sometimes it's okay, if they are really shitty.

That's the bad premise, imo.

Which form of justifiable political violence or civil uprising do you think this situation is akin to?

Shitty people are, by definition, who we make agreements to murder. We just do so with the sanctioning of Statism, and currently the illusion of a justice system.

Health Insurers make decisions that put thousands of people in graves, in abject poverty, or in lifetimes of debt and pain. I dont need to explain to you what type of political violence responding to that is.

 

[JBJisGOAT14]

Well bud, there was stuff like capping drug prices, capping the fees doctors could charge, etc in the Affordable Care Act when it was introduced.

Guess who demanded it be removed?

Up until the Biden admin, Medicare could not legally negotiate drug prices. They had to pay whatever the drug companies decided to charge the government.

 

[syct23]

ITT Older people Rage after realizing Mortality and Younger people Champion Immortality…

 

[AWilder]

Why are hospitals so expensive? One main reason is Illegal Aliens. Hospitals can NOT deny them care. Illegals do NOT have to pay bills. Hospitals have to eat the cost and pass it on to legal citizens. Over 100 hospitals closed in California over debt from illegals care.

Things are only worse since Biden asked illegals to surge the border

weird, i was curious if there was any truth to your claims and the first hits on google all point to this being partisan verbal diarrhea. unfortunately most never find a for cure it. I hope you can recover.

Immigrants, particularly those who are undocumented, use less health care, including emergency room care, than people born in the U.S.​

Key Facts on Health Care Use and Costs Among Immigrants | KFF

This issue brief draws from the KFF/LA Times Survey of Immigrants and other KFF analyses to highlight immigrants’ health care eligibility, healthcare use and costs, as well as their contributions to the economy and workforce.

www.kff.org

THE RESULTS
“We found that immigrants have medical expenditures that are half that of United States-born individuals. Undocumented immigrants spend a disproportionately small amount of total health-care dollars in this country—they account for 5 percent of the population but only 1.4 percent of total health-care spending,” Flavin said. Why? The researchers hypothesize it’s because new immigrants are often younger and healthier than the general U.S. population, language barriers or lack of insurance can prevent access to care, and they fear deportation. But the end result is a benefit to existing citizens. “Perhaps most surprisingly,” Flavin said, “immigrants pay in more than they withdraw, generating an annual surplus of $11 billion to $17 billion to the Medicare Health Insurance Fund.”

Do Immigrants Drain the U.S. Health-Care System? | School of Medicine

medicine.tufts.edu

About 7 million undocumented aliens lived in the United States in 2000, according to Immigration and Naturalization Service estimates. Hospitals in states where many of them live report that treating them can be a financial burden. GAO was asked to examine the relationship between treating undocumented aliens and hospitals' costs not paid by patients or insurance. GAO was also asked to examine federal funding available to help hospitals offset costs of treating undocumented aliens and the responsibility of the Department of Homeland Security (Homeland Security) for covering medical expenses of sick or injured aliens encountered by Border Patrol and U.S. port-of-entry officials. To conduct this work, GAO surveyed 503 hospitals and interviewed Medicaid and hospital officials in 10 states. GAO also interviewed and obtained data from Homeland Security officials.

Undocumented Aliens: Questions Persist about Their Impact on Hospitals' Uncompensated Care Costs

About 7 million undocumented aliens lived in the United States in 2000, according to Immigration and Naturalization Service estimates. Hospitals in...

www.gao.gov

guess who passed these bills in 2003 and 2007....

 

[Soggust]

Shitty people are, by definition, who we make agreements to murder. We just do so with the sanctioning of Statism, and currently the illusion of a justice system.

Health Insurers make decisions that put thousands of people in graves, in abject poverty, or in lifetimes of debt and pain. I dont need to explain to you what type of political violence responding to that is.

I'm not saying it's not political, I'm saying it's not justifiable.

Andrew Cuomo made decisions that put a lot of people in graves. I don't think we get to murder him. Or the CEO of Monsanto, Martin Shkreli, whoever was responsible for Flint, etc.

I know no example will be perfect, but I believe these are more comparable than Al-Qaeda or Boko Haram or the French Revolution or whatever lol.

The standard for justifiable violence should be ridiculously high, for good reason, and I believe that we agree it's simply not met here, regardless of the guy being a cunt.

 

[KOByFootStomp]

Would you like to show me who in this thread is "supporting this CEO's murder"? And in what way?

I'm not digging through this thread to find specific examples, it's 80+ pages and I was speaking more about what I've seen across social media than this thread specifically. I've seen many threads on the front page of Reddit where people were calling this guy a hero, comparing him to Robin Hood, rooting for him to get off due to jury nullification, trying to start gofundme's to support his defense. There are a lot of people supporting what he did. I know Reddit is a cesspool, but it is encapsulates the modern American leftists.

 

[Andy Capp]

I'm not digging through this thread to find specific examples, it's 80+ pages and I was speaking more about what I've seen across social media than this thread specifically. I've seen many threads on the front page of Reddit where people were calling this guy a hero, comparing him to Robin Hood, rooting for him to get off due to jury nullification, trying to start gofundme's to support his defense. There are a lot of people supporting what he did. I know Reddit is a cesspool, but it is encapsulates the modern American leftists.

So, typical troll behaviour amounting to "I'm going to make a dumb accusation then tuck my dick firmly under ad hominem when called on it."

Anecdotes aren't worth a fuck and neither are you.

 

[KOByFootStomp]

So, typical troll behaviour amounting to "I'm going to make a dumb accusation then tuck my dick firmly under ad hominem when called on it."

Anecdotes aren't worth a fuck and neither are you.

Sorry I hurt your pussy. Carry on.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Which form of justifiable political violence or civil uprising do you think this situation is akin to?

the founding of this country, which inspired the 2nd amendment, comes to mind.

 

[KOByFootStomp]

His many victims had kids and family too. He died quickly. It's a good death for such an evil man.

Would you like to show me who in this thread is "supporting this CEO's murder"? And in what way?

Here, I found a quote for you that says 'it's a good death for an evil man'. It took me looking through three pages. This quote was liked by 4 other people, it was in response to saying this killing should be condemned on page 41. I'm sure you can find more examples if you care to look through this thread.

 

[Soggust]

the founding of this country, which inspired the 2nd amendment, comes to mind.

When we overthrew the Brits?

Really? Come on. I mean, are we storming the UHC HQ and slaughtering their "soldiers"?




Oh fuck nvm

 

[DoctorTaco]

Why is that "no less"? You're like the 10th person to complain about "AI". It's just a matter of fact that doctors and hospitals order unnecessary tests to increase the charges, so the AI just analyzes what the normal or recommended amount of care vs the stuff that seems to be excess to rack up the bill. If they just automatically approved everything, every single visit would be 1,000 tests and labs.
People on here are acting like it's chemotherapy being rejected, when the denials are mostly extra labs and duration of shit.

Hospitals doing something wrong doesn’t make what insurance companies are doing right.

I just did some cursory googling and saw a whole lot of stories involving people who had serious, much needed equipment, Tests, and procedures denied, often with dire consequences.

 

[JBJisGOAT14]

Here, I found a quote for you that says 'it's a good death for an evil man'. It took me looking through three pages. This quote was liked by 4 other people, it was in response to saying this killing should be condemned on page 41. I'm sure you can find more examples if you care to look through this thread.

Boo hoo you baby back bitch. Party of fuck your feelings really turned into soft turds (or always was).

 

[DoctorTaco]

I'm curious what the stance on the people supporting this CEO's murder is on the 300,000 fentanyl deaths that occurred as a direct result of the Biden/Harris open border policies? Is it only bad when CEO's/Corporations policies lead to extra deaths? Or do they believe that Biden/Harris should be targeted for their policies that lead to excess death?

The vast majority of fent is being trafficked in by Americans.

 

[Sweater of AV]

Why are hospitals so expensive? One main reason is Illegal Aliens. Hospitals can NOT deny them care. Illegals do NOT have to pay bills. Hospitals have to eat the cost and pass it on to legal citizens. Over 100 hospitals closed in California over debt from illegals care.

Things are only worse since Biden asked illegals to surge the border

I swear some of you are clinically retarded.

 

[KOByFootStomp]

Boo hoo you baby back bitch. Party of fuck your feelings really turned into soft turds (or always was).

You are a sensitive lil guy aren't you? Cheer up bud, things will get better for you.

 

[Cole train]

Bill for a broken arm that required surgery. Fairly common injury for kids. 7k annually isn’t getting a sniff at the 95k oop expenses here

Hot diddly damn

 

[JBJisGOAT14]

You are a sensitive lil guy aren't you? Cheer up bud, things will get better for you.

I mean I’m not the one ITT getting their shit pushed in by facts, really should throw in the towel at this point. You are clearly way in over your head intellectually wise.