Kimura77
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Iv heard alot of talk recently(could it be because they just fought recently?)of the Klitchko's vs this and that of the all-time greats,and i was wondering...
Does anyone here understand what it means to be "Undisputed Champ"?
Its also known as the "Lineal Championship".........If you do than you probably already know where im going with this..........
If you dont know(its probably because we dont have one,but ill get to that later)then its ok ill explain:
In the "Modern Era" it goes.....
John L. Sullivan
^
James J. Corbett
^
Bob Fitzsimmons
^
James J. Jeffries
^
Marvin Hart
^
Tommy Burns
^
Jack Johnson
^
Jess Willard
^
Jack Dempsey
^
Gene Tunney
^
Max Schmeling
^
Jack Sharkey
^
Primo Carnera
^
Max Baer
^
James J. Braddock
^
Joe Louis
^
Ezzard Charles
^
Jersey Joe Walcott
^
Rocky Marciano
^
Floyd Patterson
^
Ingemar Johansson
^
Floyd Patterson
^
Sonny Liston
^
Muhammad Ali
^
Joe Frazier
^
George Foreman
^
Muhammad Ali
^
Leon Spinks
^
Muhammad Ali
^
Larry Holmes
^
Michael Spinks
^
Mike Tyson
^
James "Buster" Douglas
^
Evander Holyfield
^
Riddick Bowe
^
Evander Holyfield
^
Michael Moorer
^
George Foreman
^
Shannon Briggs
^
Lennox Lewis
^
Hasim Rahman
^
Lennox Lewis
Now that gets me to my point,we dont have one right now because the #1 and #2 fighters in the world wont fight each other for the reason that they are brothers...
I understand thats an odd occurrence but we cant penalize our sport by crowning one the "Undisputed Champion" when the difference in ability between the two is only marginal and the gap of talent in the Heavyweight division is so vast...
That being said if one was to retire and leave the sport than the remaining Klitschko could be recognized as the "Lineal Champion" but until then all we got is two giants beating up on a bunch of scraps,nothing that either of them are doing right now is going to get them into the Hall of Fame...
As for imaginary matchups...you could put either of the Klitschko's in the ring with any All-Time great that you want and have any outcome that you can think of.......
But Godzilla still smashes them all......
Does anyone here understand what it means to be "Undisputed Champ"?
Its also known as the "Lineal Championship".........If you do than you probably already know where im going with this..........
If you dont know(its probably because we dont have one,but ill get to that later)then its ok ill explain:
In the "Modern Era" it goes.....
John L. Sullivan
^
James J. Corbett
^
Bob Fitzsimmons
^
James J. Jeffries
^
Marvin Hart
^
Tommy Burns
^
Jack Johnson
^
Jess Willard
^
Jack Dempsey
^
Gene Tunney
^
Max Schmeling
^
Jack Sharkey
^
Primo Carnera
^
Max Baer
^
James J. Braddock
^
Joe Louis
^
Ezzard Charles
^
Jersey Joe Walcott
^
Rocky Marciano
^
Floyd Patterson
^
Ingemar Johansson
^
Floyd Patterson
^
Sonny Liston
^
Muhammad Ali
^
Joe Frazier
^
George Foreman
^
Muhammad Ali
^
Leon Spinks
^
Muhammad Ali
^
Larry Holmes
^
Michael Spinks
^
Mike Tyson
^
James "Buster" Douglas
^
Evander Holyfield
^
Riddick Bowe
^
Evander Holyfield
^
Michael Moorer
^
George Foreman
^
Shannon Briggs
^
Lennox Lewis
^
Hasim Rahman
^
Lennox Lewis
Now that gets me to my point,we dont have one right now because the #1 and #2 fighters in the world wont fight each other for the reason that they are brothers...
I understand thats an odd occurrence but we cant penalize our sport by crowning one the "Undisputed Champion" when the difference in ability between the two is only marginal and the gap of talent in the Heavyweight division is so vast...
That being said if one was to retire and leave the sport than the remaining Klitschko could be recognized as the "Lineal Champion" but until then all we got is two giants beating up on a bunch of scraps,nothing that either of them are doing right now is going to get them into the Hall of Fame...
As for imaginary matchups...you could put either of the Klitschko's in the ring with any All-Time great that you want and have any outcome that you can think of.......
But Godzilla still smashes them all......
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