Good enough for me. Side effects don't matter (I'm sure there are vast psychological side effect manifesting as physiological maladies when one goes to prison), you forfeit your human rights as soon as you take them away from another person.
Sounds like this was a last minute change based on a gut reaction to a tragic story with some of the lawmakers even admitting they didn't know what they were voting for. No expert evaluation and even the head of the national police who called for harsher punishment disagrees. Seems like a really bad way to pass a bill like this.
Ukraine’s parliament has passed new laws introducing obligatory chemical castration for sex offenders, posing a significant test for the libertarian credentials of President Volodymyr Zelensky.
The new measures, which would force anti-androgen injections on men convicted of serious sex offences with minors, would make Ukrainian practice among the harshest in the world.
Coming on the back of several widely-publicised stories of child abuse, the change is likely to prove extremely popular with voters. But legal experts and medical professionals have roundly criticised the bill, and have appealed to Mr Zelenksy to intervene with a presidential veto.
Hurriedly introduced in the Supreme Rada’s final session on Thursday, the legislation seems to have an eye on next Sunday’s general elections.
Its authors, led by the nationalist populist Oleh Lyashko, are currently flagging in the polls, projected not to break the five per cent barrier required to stay in parliament.
In explanatory notes to the bill, Mr Lyashko said that he had introduced the measures in the absence of the death penalty. “It is unlikely that a rapist will now return to what he was doing,” he wrote.
The issue of child abuse has become a central issue in Ukraine’s election campaign following the abduction, sexual molestation and murder of a young girl in southern Ukraine.
Eleven-year-old Dariya Lukyanenko was found in a cesspool on 19 June, six days after leaving home for a dance class. A 22-year-old family friend later admitted to her murder.
The horrific story focussed attention on a bill already being considered in parliament. That proposal (number 6607) had been introduced in response to concerns that sexual crimes may be more widespread than reported. It suggested increased sentences, a closed paedophile register, and voluntary castration. It was backed by a broad coalition of MPs, police leaders, lawyers, prosecutors and psychologists.
Remarkably, however, at the last minute, a parliamentary sub-committee adopted Mr Lyashko’s alternative proposal. Two pages long, the text of bill 6449 was much shorter and had not undergone any expert evaluation. But its contents were much more radical, introducing compulsory castration; a public offenders register; and much harsher sentences.
Remarkably, it passed in two readings, with the support of 247 deputies – 21 more than was needed for it to pass.
The Independent spoke to several MPs who voted. Most admitted they were not fully aware of the details of what they voting for.
criminologist who co-wrote the original bill that proposed only voluntary castration, told The Independent that Mr Lyashko had “deceived” MPs with his last-minute intervention.
“The MPs were not warned about the dangers of the law,” she said. “Chemical castration should never be used as punishment. When it is, it is by definition torture. The vast majority of the people convicted of sexual crimes with minors are perfectly healthy people. Forcibly castrating them is not the civilised thing to do.”
Mustafa Nayyem, a reformist MP who sponsored the original bill described the Lyashko amendment as “a legislative raid”.
“In the end, stupidity won,” he said.
Vyacheslav Abroskin, the head of Ukraine’s national police who had pushed for harsher punishments for sex offenders, also criticised the Lyashko legislation.
The new law needs to be signed by the parliamentary speaker and president before reaching the statute book.
The Independent understands that opponents of the bill are lobbying Mr Zelensky’s representatives, and urging
them not to endorse the bill. But blocking an obviously popular measure may prove difficult. When contacted, Mr Zelensky’s spokesperson refused to comment on his intentions.
Oleksii Ryabchun, one of the MPs who voted for the bill, said that a compromise may be found in Mr Zelensky returning a modified bill to parliament early in its next sitting.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...emical-castration-sex-offenders-a9002791.html
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* Ukrainian parliament voted yes to forcibly chemically castrate sex offenders between 18-65 years old that violates minors
* The president can still veto the decision
One the quotes in the article made my head spin, “the majority of sex offenders are perfectly healthy...it wouldn’t be civilized to castrate them”...their victims on the other hand are more than likely not well after being abused.
Personally, if you violate a child, I think life imprisonment and chemical castration would be merciful!
This is a good point, but Ukraine seems to be moving in the right direction. Poroshenko gracefully stepped down and held true to democratic principles, I don't think Zelensky will be different.
Thing is, Lyashko as you can see in Russian wiki (for some reason not on Enligh version of his page) has some story with child abuse. In Russian wiki -- in January of 2012 16 years old Vadim Tereshenko accused Lyashko of raping him. In July of 2012 he tried to took to a trip to Turkey 12 years old and 14 years old boys from foster home. One of the articles says that he avoided arrest because of his immunity as a deputy.
Ukraine’s parliament has passed new laws introducing obligatory chemical castration for sex offenders, posing a significant test for the libertarian credentials of President Volodymyr Zelensky.
The new measures, which would force anti-androgen injections on men convicted of serious sex offences with minors, would make Ukrainian practice among the harshest in the world.
Coming on the back of several widely-publicised stories of child abuse, the change is likely to prove extremely popular with voters. But legal experts and medical professionals have roundly criticised the bill, and have appealed to Mr Zelenksy to intervene with a presidential veto.
Hurriedly introduced in the Supreme Rada’s final session on Thursday, the legislation seems to have an eye on next Sunday’s general elections.
Its authors, led by the nationalist populist Oleh Lyashko, are currently flagging in the polls, projected not to break the five per cent barrier required to stay in parliament.
In explanatory notes to the bill, Mr Lyashko said that he had introduced the measures in the absence of the death penalty. “It is unlikely that a rapist will now return to what he was doing,” he wrote.
The issue of child abuse has become a central issue in Ukraine’s election campaign following the abduction, sexual molestation and murder of a young girl in southern Ukraine.
Eleven-year-old Dariya Lukyanenko was found in a cesspool on 19 June, six days after leaving home for a dance class. A 22-year-old family friend later admitted to her murder.
The horrific story focussed attention on a bill already being considered in parliament. That proposal (number 6607) had been introduced in response to concerns that sexual crimes may be more widespread than reported. It suggested increased sentences, a closed paedophile register, and voluntary castration. It was backed by a broad coalition of MPs, police leaders, lawyers, prosecutors and psychologists.
Remarkably, however, at the last minute, a parliamentary sub-committee adopted Mr Lyashko’s alternative proposal. Two pages long, the text of bill 6449 was much shorter and had not undergone any expert evaluation. But its contents were much more radical, introducing compulsory castration; a public offenders register; and much harsher sentences.
Remarkably, it passed in two readings, with the support of 247 deputies – 21 more than was needed for it to pass.
The Independent spoke to several MPs who voted. Most admitted they were not fully aware of the details of what they voting for.
criminologist who co-wrote the original bill that proposed only voluntary castration, told The Independent that Mr Lyashko had “deceived” MPs with his last-minute intervention.
“The MPs were not warned about the dangers of the law,” she said. “Chemical castration should never be used as punishment. When it is, it is by definition torture. The vast majority of the people convicted of sexual crimes with minors are perfectly healthy people. Forcibly castrating them is not the civilised thing to do.”
Mustafa Nayyem, a reformist MP who sponsored the original bill described the Lyashko amendment as “a legislative raid”.
“In the end, stupidity won,” he said.
Vyacheslav Abroskin, the head of Ukraine’s national police who had pushed for harsher punishments for sex offenders, also criticised the Lyashko legislation.
The new law needs to be signed by the parliamentary speaker and president before reaching the statute book.
The Independent understands that opponents of the bill are lobbying Mr Zelensky’s representatives, and urging
them not to endorse the bill. But blocking an obviously popular measure may prove difficult. When contacted, Mr Zelensky’s spokesperson refused to comment on his intentions.
Oleksii Ryabchun, one of the MPs who voted for the bill, said that a compromise may be found in Mr Zelensky returning a modified bill to parliament early in its next sitting.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...emical-castration-sex-offenders-a9002791.html
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Cliffs
* Ukrainian parliament voted yes to forcibly chemically castrate sex offenders between 18-65 years old that violates minors
* The president can still veto the decision
One the quotes in the article made my head spin, “the majority of sex offenders are perfectly healthy...it wouldn’t be civilized to castrate them”...their victims on the other hand are more than likely not well after being abused.
Personally, if you violate a child, I think life imprisonment and chemical castration would be merciful!
Sounds like the perfect guy to test this new law if it comes to fruition!
"BREAKING NEWS! UKRAINIAN HOMOSEXUAL PEDO POLITICIAN WANTS TO CASTRATE OTHER PEDOS!111"
Honestly I can't remember another non-Russian politician who was accused of being pedo and who was speaking out against Russia.
