Law UK Supreme Court rules that a woman is someone born biologically female

Do you agree with the UK SC ruling that a woman is a biological female?


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I think the silliest thing out of all of this is that, people think a sign on a door is going to stop men from raping women. You think someone is going to go through hormone therapy, sex change, and change their whole life just to be "allowed" in the bathroom and then sexually assault a woman? They're going to do it anyways.

Yes, hormone therapy and surgery should never be done to kids, but aside from that, so many of you show that you are nosey as fuck and just want to control what others do because you think it's "weird" or "gross". And statistically, a lot of you angry about this are actually dreaming of sucking dick and getting pegged, but you won't admit it lol.
Your right.
My grandfather told me when I was a child a lock on a door isn't really a physical barrier, it just keeps an honest man honest.
 
Umm, this was a decision made in the UK. You're so fucking deranged that you think Donald Trump made this decision. Take a juice box break, little guy.

are you always such a sensitive little girl? i asked, WHY IS THIS POLITICAL, because this is a fucking waste of time.
 
You’d have to really perceive transgender people as threats to consider their very existence and presence in a public space as a sex offence/crime. Most people don’t see them as a threat of any kind.

I completely understand why trans women would prefer to use a women’s bathroom for the same reasons a biological woman would. Privacy, dignity, safety. The same affordances anyone would expect. I really don’t see what the big deal is.
The big deal is before this shit you only saw men in men's room and women in womens rooms. If you saw an obvious man go into the ladies room, you could get security or the police or go charging in to make sure your kid isn't getting diddled. Because everyone had an understanding of who should or shouldn't be in there.

Keeping people safe is more important than supporting a mentally ill man's delusion that he's actually a woman or a butterfly or whatever other nonsense that individual believes.
 

Transgender women in Britain fear ruling could place toilets, sports and hospitals off limits​


BY BRIAN MELLEY AND JILL LAWLESS
Updated 2:37 PM BRT, April 17, 2025
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LONDON (AP) — Transgender women will be excluded from women’s toilets, hospital wards and sports teams after a U.K. Supreme Court ruling, the head of the Equality and Human Rights Commission said Thursday, as trans groups digested a judgment that could have a broad and detrimental impact on daily life.

While Britain’s highest court said there was no clear winner in its ruling defining a woman for anti-discrimination purposes as someone born biologically female, noting that transgender people remain protected from discrimination, trans groups said the decision would undermine their rights.

Equality Commission Chairwoman Kishwer Falkner said the “enormously consequential” ruling brought clarity and would prompt her organization to update public codes by summer to comply.

“Single-sex services like changing rooms must be based on biological sex,” she told the BBC. “If a male person is allowed to use a women-only service or facility, it isn’t any longer single-sex, then it becomes a mixed-sex space.”

Court challenge arose from public board quota​

The ruling Wednesday came in a case that had nothing to do with those spaces, but stemmed from a 2018 law passed by the Scottish Parliament that required at least 50% women on boards of Scottish public bodies. Transgender women with gender recognition certificates were to be included in meeting the quota.

But the court said that using a certificate to interpret someone’s sex would clash with definitions of man and woman and, therefore, the anti-discrimination provisions of the 2010 Equality Act could “only be interpreted as referring to biological sex.”

Out of some 66 million people in England, Scotland and Wales, about 116,000 identified as trans in the latest census count. About 8,500 gender recognition certificates have been issued.

The feminist group that brought the court case said the outcome provided common sense, protected same-sex spaces for women and brought clarity to the thorny issue. But trans groups said it had caused fear and uncertainty.

Court challenge arose from public board quota​

The ruling Wednesday came in a case that had nothing to do with those spaces, but stemmed from a 2018 law passed by the Scottish Parliament that required at least 50% women on boards of Scottish public bodies. Transgender women with gender recognition certificates were to be included in meeting the quota.

But the court said that using a certificate to interpret someone’s sex would clash with definitions of man and woman and, therefore, the anti-discrimination provisions of the 2010 Equality Act could “only be interpreted as referring to biological sex.”

Out of some 66 million people in England, Scotland and Wales, about 116,000 identified as trans in the latest census count. About 8,500 gender recognition certificates have been issued.

The feminist group that brought the court case said the outcome provided common sense, protected same-sex spaces for women and brought clarity to the thorny issue. But trans groups said it had caused fear and uncertainty.

Divisive issue in the culture wars​

Gender identity has not been as divisive in the U.K. as the U.S., where it has created political firestorms in some states, but the topic factors into Britain’s own culture wars.

Newspapers have reported on a group of female nurses who sued their employer after they had to share a changing room with a male colleague who identifies as female, and about a nurse who was suspended for calling a transgender :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile “mister.”

Chris Evans, editor of The Telegraph, a politically conservative London newspaper, said in its morning newsletter Thursday that the court had “declared that transgender women are not legally women,” and said it was looking into what the ruling means for “public bodies who have sacrificed women’s rights on the altar of inclusivity.”

British Transport Police announced it was reviewing its policies in light of the ruling and would temporarily change the way it conducts strip searches of transgender people in custody by assigning an officer of the same biological birth sex.

Uncertainty over what comes next for trans people​

Falkner said her group would continue to defend the rights of trans people.

“They have rights, and their rights must be respected,” she said. “It’s not a victory for an increase in unpleasant actions against trans people. We will not tolerate that.”

But Madeleine said that Falkner had provided no sense of what the future holds for vulnerable people who may find themselves shut out of sports, counseling services and health care.


“My concern is that if the equalities minister does push for transgender people to be shut out from these spaces, as they say, there’s going to be nowhere else for them to go,” Madeleine said. “The message we’re getting, frankly, from the highest equalities office in the country is that they want to get rid of us, and they don’t really care where we go.”

https://apnews.com/article/transgender-rights-uk-supreme-court-21fcf89b655712351ba2696795d49ece
Translation for the title - Creepy crossdressing dudes upset they can no longer go in bathrooms with girls.
 
this is literally NOT FUCKING IMPORTANT and not a politcal problem. Holy fuck, i do not care.


How about leave this on a civilian and medical level. Jesus waste of fucking time.

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are you always such a sensitive little girl? i asked, WHY IS THIS POLITICAL, because this is a fucking waste of time.
Why is it political? Because they've made it that way over the last decade. Where the hell have you been?

Weirdos: Hey there's this group of people called trans. They feel like they're the opposite gender and that's causing them all kinds of distress.

Normal People: Um, alright? Is that a mental illness? No? You sure, because thinking you're a chick when you're a dude sure sounds like it might be a mental illness. And almost everyone that's trans has all sorts of other mental health problems. Is supporting them in this delusion a good thing for their mental health, if it's not actually true?


W: We can't call it a mental illness because then they feel stigmatized.

NP: Uh pardon me? But we call all other mental illnesses what they are and don't tell other ill people that they're totally fine and encourage their delusions. We don't tell a schizophrenic man that thinks he's a sentient carrot that he actually is. We treat him. With science and medicine and stuff.

W: Look there's just a few of them and will it really kill you to call Bill, Belinda if it makes him feel better?


NP: Jesus Christ I do not have time for this. You know what, you're right there's just a few of them. Who cares if the entire concept is wrong and stupid and has no logical, factual, or scientific basis. Let's just move on.


*TIME SKIP*


W: And gender is fluid and anyone can be any gender or combination of genders at any time. And anyone can just invade either genders personal spaces because gender is constantly changing you know. And acceptance isn't enough you have to use our pronouns and cater to us constantly or we're going to throw tantrums. And men should be able to compete against women in sports because they don't FEEL like men anymore.

These people will be the case study for our generation, on why you absolutely cannot just sit idly by and let people push shitty stupid ideas. If you don't oppose them every step of the way, they get bolder. Now we're ten years into this shit and we've completely lost the battle. A large chunk of people think all this shit is logical and normal now, and who knows how long we're going to have to fight to even get the concept of gender norms back.
 
I hope the ghost of William Shakespeare manifests just to cunt-punt her off the stage.
Judging by his work, Shakespeare was probably queer himself and his plays are full of cross-dressing and gender confusion.
 
Judging by his work, Shakespeare was probably queer himself and his plays are full of cross-dressing and gender confusion.

Even if that were true, I doubt Shakespeare would be pleased to see one of his plays radically changed in such a manner.
 
You’d have to really perceive transgender people as threats to consider their very existence and presence in a public space as a sex offence/crime. Most people don’t see them as a threat of any kind.

I completely understand why trans women would prefer to use a women’s bathroom for the same reasons a biological woman would. Privacy, dignity, safety. The same affordances anyone would expect. I really don’t see what the big deal is.

I mean if a transwomen passes, they can just use the women's bathroom and no one would even know.

The problem is most look like incel dudes in a dress. That feels threatening to most real women and makes them uncomfortable.

When it comes to trans issues, folks the left has made a series of changes over the last 10-20 years that have shifted things too far to the left. When it comes to trans women/girls in athletics, teaching elementary kids about trans ideology, giving minors puberty blockers, hormones and sometimes even surgeries, and schools requiring consent from elementary/middle school kids before telling that kid's parents they are transitioning at school, there has been a steady march to the left on just about every issue. That part seems clear.

Folks on the right look at this and say "Hey wait a minute, I don't agree with that", because, well, they don't. In return, rather than defending those positions on their merits, the left seems to be relying on a series of deflections.

One of these deflections is "why are you so obsessed with trans people?". This seems fundamentally unfair to me. Are people who disagree with these policies simply supposed to ignore them, lest they be accused of "being obsessed"? Is this just a way for proponents of these policies to avoid having to defend them? Aren't they basically saying "Go away and let us do what we want"? What should I do if I don't agree with what you want?
 
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