UFC vs Boxing Pay

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by LoadedZeus, Nov 19, 2020.

  1. LoadedZeus Green Belt

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    Thought I would make a thread about it to see what others think about the discrepancy and affect on MMA's talent pool. I think boxing is the only relevant argument actually. Low level boxers are equivalent to mma fighters fighting mostly outside of ufc, which is not the point. For a dedicated and highly talented fighter, he would be mid or top tier and thats where all the prospective earning opportunities would matter for some one passionate about a career.

    Compare mid tier boxers to mid tier mma fighters. By mid tier, I mean they bring in viewers, maybe around 50K-600K viewers and upper mid tier would be on the lower end of ppv scale, bringing in less than 500K buys. Also ufc fighters have hardly any opportunities for sponsorship deals, while boxers earn quite a bit from sponsorship deals etc, not only their guaranteed purses. Lets compare:

    Mid Tier:
    UFC: Dustin Poirier - Last fight $300,000
    Boxing: Terence Crawford - Last fight guaranteed purse $3,000,000

    UFC: Max Holloway - Last fight $250,000
    Boxing: Danny Garcia - Last fight guaranteed purse $2,000,000

    Upper Mid Tier:
    UFC: Jon Jones - Last fight $500,000
    Boxing: Amir Khan - Last fight $8,000,000

    Top Tier:
    UFC: Conor Mcgregor - Last fight $3,000,000
    Boxing: Tyson Fury - Last fight $28,000,000

    Its not even worth comparing, the pay in the ufc is a joke. Keep in mind the numbers shown for upper tier and top tier fighters don't even take sponsorships into account, as well as the fact that boxers getting a much larger percentage of ppv buys afterwards as well. For some one pursuing a fighting career, mma is sadly a horrible choice money wise. Compared to boxing, where there are way more opportunities to make a considerably large amount of income.

    I think facts like these is why mma doesn't get taken as seriously when it comes to sports, seems like a moneygrab business for promotion rather than sport to most. The fact that the ufc continually screws over fighters is just sad, and its getting worse now with seasoned veterans like Jussier Formiga getting cut in favor of no name amateur DWCS fighters who will accept $12K/$12K purses.
     
  2. Zarate Purple Belt

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    boxing is an ancient tradition, culture, philosophy - the sweet science.

    mma is human cockfighting for nerdy disgusting fat neckbearded incels and a pseudo sport with low overall skill level.

    ez normal
     
  3. LoadedZeus Green Belt

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  5. LoneStalker Black Belt

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    According to Forbes Magazine, Pacquiao had 21 PPV fights, and "generated 18 million buys and $1.2 billion in revenue".
    His fight against Floyd managed 4.6 million PPV buys and total revenue of $600 million from PPV, tickets, international TV, sponsorships and merchandise.
    Also Forbes mentions that in 2018, the year in which Floyd spanked Conor, he closed the year with a net income of $258 million.
    CBS reported that for their second fight, Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury received $25 million each plus a percentage of the PPV ($87 million, according to several sources).


    And Dana believes that his crappy company can compete with this.
     
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  6. youllneverwalkalone Purple Belt

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    What about the bottom tier though? You maybe right about everything but those comparisons apply to a tiny minority of boxers and MMA fighters.

    The comparison between Conor and Fury doesn't make sense because Fury fought in one of the biggest boxing bouts of all times whereas Conor's wasn't even a championship fight.

    Finally, comparisons for "top tier" should probably also consider ppv revenues, not just base pay, in order to be meaningful.
     
  7. Post 2 Decision Gold Belt

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    We needed this thread again!
     
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  9. Nate banged my mom Brown Belt

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    Glad you made this thread. This is something that’s never been discussed here on the dog
     
  10. kflo Titanium Belt

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    you can claim mma doesn't get taken seriously, but mma in the US has more viewers, more ppv buys, often more famous athletes.

    you can separate the pay vs the state of both sports. they're not the same topic.

    they both have their pros and cons. top boxers clearly have more power due to being alot less dependent on who promotes them to sell their fights.
     
  11. zuffazombee Green Belt

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    You left out a LOT of expenses the UFC incurs that boxing promoters don't have to worry about.

    UFC has to pay a site fee for almost every card they promote. Sites bid for the right to host big boxing events.

    UFC pays all their own production costs for every event. Broadcasters bid on & pay for production costs for big boxing events.

    UFC pays for health insurance for their fighters. They also, AFAIK, foot the bill for the Performance Institute which all fighters are free to use.
     
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  12. originalbadguy Purple Belt

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    biggest problem i see with your comparison is you have no idea what the UFC guys take after PPV % and signing bonuses , that being said it still could be way off, but you don't have any idea so tough to compare and then act like you have really broken it down so that we all now have a clear picture
     
  13. Hellowhosthat Silver Belt

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    There aren't that many boxers making a million plus a fight. On a boxing card the top fighters make the lions share of the money and the fighters at the bottom of the card make peanuts.

    Boxing cards only typically have about 5 fights including prelims. If the UFC was run the same way, most of the fighters wouldn't even be on the roster.
     
  14. kflo Titanium Belt

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    and the most zealot fighter pay advocates would pat themselves on the back for increasing the base / average pay in the ufc......
     
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  15. Hellowhosthat Silver Belt

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    Yeah, while the current 12/12 guys end up fighting for a grand in a marquee somewhere.
     
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  16. EndlessCritic Steel Belt

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    lol at Terence Crawford being a "mid-tier" boxer.

    Mike Perry is a mid tier MMA fighter.

    Someone like Alfonso Gomez or Ishe Smith is a mid tier boxer.
     
  17. arathans i dont care about your fee fee´s

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    i bet boxers are jelly about the 50% discount voucher reebok gave some of the ufc fighters that 1 time :p
     
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  18. LoadedZeus Green Belt

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    Did you guys even read my post? Forum is ridiculous at times. I literally addressed every single point you guys mentioned, especially in the context of whats being discussed and you guys chose to ignore it completely. Go read the post again, not going to respond to either posts directly
     
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  20. Patricksmith White Belt

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    I don't know where to begin with this stupid thread. I'm close to 50 so I'm older than most of you. This whole fighter pay income inequality is bs. This is why Venezuela is bankrupt. The people thought like you all and were jealous and voted in a socialist and now everyone is poor. Dustin makes about a million a year when he fights 2x a year. Average salary in nfl is about that. He is well payed. He could never play in the NFL no matter how much he practiced and trained. Mma affords him a opportunity to be a millionaire. Only in a capitalist country could he do that.


    Jim carrey believes in socialism even though he is worth 100 million. Make that kind of money growing up in Cuba. He couldn't. He is a hypocrite like all of them. I make 40k a year. I have enough money now to semi retire. I invested in stocks and commodities. Warren buffet said it best. "If you don't find a way to make money while you sleep, you will work until you die.” Dont blame others for your poverty.
     
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