Ufc trying hard to go mainstream it never happened

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Dana white tried so hard to be relevant like other sports , at the end of the day it will always be looked at as barbaric cage fighting. There are no more marketable male stars really . All they talk about is rousey holm. Dana trying hard to show up on ESPN it's not going to work . Will always be a niche product with tapot bros , tattoos , and juicers.

Anyways that's my thoughts for this cold morning . Enjoy anyways
 
They certainly aren't going about it the best way. The excessive hyperbole and Dana's shenanigans make it look like WWE rather than a legitimate sport.
 
prikoke said:
They certainly aren't going about it the best way. The excessive hyperbole and Dana's shenanigans make it look like WWE rather than a legitimate sport.
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i agree 100%
 
UFC is already mainstream
 
I don't think Zuffa even cares about MMA being viewed as a sport. I think they want to position themselves more as a media/content company that uses MMA as a platform to sell story lines and characters, and to grow primarily through social media and other forms of "new" media. Look at most of the threads on this forum, 90% of them have to do with the drama surrounding the events. There isn't a whole lot of interest in the actual fights beyond their outcome.
 
Its hard for a combat sport to go mainstream when the world is filled with skinny jean wearing hipster pussies
 
Ronda was pretty mainstream. A lot of people I know in my classes knew she got KO'd. Conor is also getting mainstreamed, hit worldstar a couple of times.

Other than that, no.
 
The top two stories on TMZ at this moment are about the UFC
Cant get more mainstream than that
 
They didn't try hard enough IMO. Made their Fox debut with a single fight, which of course only lasted a couple minutes. And they haven't put a fight of that level on TV since. Missed opportunity to truly go mainstream. They keep their biggest fights behind a paywall.

Imagine Jon Jones on free television. That shit would be mainstream real quick. But they'll never do that and miss out on those ppv buys.
 
billharford said:
I don't think Zuffa even cares about MMA being viewed as a sport. I think they want to position themselves more as a media/content company that uses MMA as a platform to sell story lines and characters, and to grow primarily through social media and other forms of "new" media. Look at most of the threads on this forum, 90% of them have to do with the drama surrounding the events. There isn't a whole lot of interest in the actual fights beyond their outcome.
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I see ur point and I think ur onto something.... However, casuals probably aren't on sherdog
 
Juicers exist in every big money sport on the face of the planet. If juicers made a sport illegitimate, then Pro Cycling(a double entendre if there ever was one) would be as meaningful as a game of rock paper scissors.

Bad fans are everywhere too. Here, you have racist soccer fans forcing their teams to play in empty stadiums: http://tinyurl.com/pf4obnv Does that make the biggest sport in the world illegitimate?
 
TrippleOG said:
Dana white tried so hard to be relevant like other sports , at the end of the day it will always be looked at as barbaric cage fighting. There are no more marketable male stars really . All they talk about is rousey holm. Dana trying hard to show up on ESPN it's not going to work . Will always be a niche product with tapot bros , tattoos , and juicers.

Anyways that's my thoughts for this cold morning . Enjoy anyways
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What a harrowing story, absolutely harrowing!

BY the way, they say you can judge a civilization by the forms pf entertainment in which they partake. The example most often used is ancient Rome and their barbaric gladiator fights which lasted until when one combatant killed the other. If The UFC were much more mainstream than it is, it would be a sad commentary on the state of early 21st century civilization. Certainly there are plenty of good ways to be entertained without having to have a sport where you essentially have a pro wrestling promotion which is a shoot (meaning both guys in a fight retrying as hard as they can to win) and besides allowing wrestling holds including bone breaking submission holds, they also allow the fighters to punch and kick each other in the face.

Face it, that's a crude, low class form of entertainment. For the vast majority of civilized, cultured people, it's not aesthetically pleasing to see two guys trying their best to beat each other to a pulp, even allowing a man to hit a downed opponent. Don't believe me? Just take a look at the obscenity-filled posts of the mental giants which constitute the majority of Sherdog. They're very direct! They tell each other exactly what they think of them, just as long as they continue to hide in the anonymity the internet affords them as well as the complete lack of responsibility they take for how they communicate with complete strangers which all ensures them they have no consequences for anything they write.

As much as the typical Sherdog poster likes to bash pro wrestling, back when pro wrestling still existed, it was an entertainment form with far more class than MMA will ever have. Bret Hart perhaps put it best when he said "Any idiot can hurt someone. The true art of pr0 wrestling lies in making it look as if you and your opponent are hurting each other while ensuring through your skills that you each walk away from the ring after your match with nothing more serious than the typical bumps and bruises you sustain in a match."
 
prikoke said:
They certainly aren't going about it the best way. The excessive hyperbole and Dana's shenanigans make it look like WWE rather than a legitimate sport.
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The "WWF" stuff, as you call it, is what pretty much got it to this point though, only through excessive hyperbole and shenanigans have we finally managed to get on cable tv, highlights on ESPN, coverage in newspapers(USA Today, etc), none of that existed before the "WWF stuff".
 
Better if it never goes mainstream and they stop trying.
 
Wait just one minute......
What is the definition of main stream??
That is way to ambiguous.
If by mainstream you mean popular, it is far behind soccer football basketball baseball boxing even lacrosse womens basketball and rugby. So in that definition I would say no.
If mainstream means wwe, the walking dead, tosh.o, and cat memes then yes!!

Most fans of mma seem to be haters, and tune in to see the drama and talk shit. Similar to wwe. Most fans of the other sports that are far more accepted and popular are cheerleaders for their respective team/ player. I wonder if that has an impact.
 
If I find it annoying that"x is the greatest fightever ever to live" it changes weekly.I just think Dana sounds ridiculous. that and rogans"his is the biggest fight ever. Crazy!!!"
 
the ufc shot themselves in the foot when they tried to turn the sport into a league. when they had fewer fighters, they had more appeal because the masses saw these guys as one-of-a-kind fighters. they were larger than life.

look at someone like chuck liddell. he didn't have the personality of a ronda or conor. yet, he had massive appeal. of course, he was a big knockout artist. but what i think was more important, was that he was one of the few fighters that people knew about. today, it seems that anyone can be a ufc fighter. you see lots of guys ko'ing or tko'ing fighters, and people don't care.

the ufc should have kept a minor-league organization around, like what they had with strikeforce. separate the okay fighters from the truly great fighters, so people can make the distinction. ufc fighters lost their luster when the ufc signed hundreds and hundreds of fighters.
 
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