UFC the major leagues and every other organization are the minors??

Yes it its. You see guys that have such a pristine record but they fought unknown guys, they come to the ufc and it turns ugly for them. Also other guys who were champs in other promotions and they fall short when they try to get a belt in the ufc . It's the big leagues, no question about that.
 
Ummmm The UFC has 360 total fighters under contract. They don't just find people off the street and go "Hey, you wanna fight in the UFC?". If you're under contract in the UFC, that means they've generally looked at your career and thought you'd be a great match up for someone they currently have, or think you could be the next big come up.

Yes they do. They have so many injuries and events now that they're just trying to fill up events. They don't think all these guys are going to be the next big thing. These guys aren't even top prospects. Not even close. It's just more bodies to fill up events. A sea of mediocre fighters.
 
I don't think of it as a bad thing. Look at leagues like the NBA, NHL, and MLB. These sports are played in various countries all over the world, with most having their own professional leagues. But those leagues I listed are considered the top echelon of the sport. When they come calling, you generally don't say no. The same can be said for the UFC. It's the top rung of the ladder in terms of MMA promotions. It's where you want to be. So I have no problem with smaller local and regional promotions being "feeder" leagues if you will, because it happens in other sports too.

Wrong comparison, I dont see Spanish soccer league buying the whole brazilian league for example and after a few months, there s no more brazilian league, of course bigger leagues or organizations will always feed with talents from minor organizations, otherwise Ufc would be replacing all the fighters from TUF.. how bad it would be.. hauhauhauah
The truth soccer for example has reached a good level of competition, thats why there are continent challenges and soccer world championships are, just or bigger than olympics itself, one of the reasons there are at least 4 big leagues:
Spain
England
Italy
France
 
Yes they do. They have so many injuries and events now that they're just trying to fill up events. They don't think all these guys are going to be the next big thing. These guys aren't even top prospects. Not even close. It's just more bodies to fill up events. A sea of mediocre fighters.

I didn't say everyone they sign is going to be "the next big thing", but they sure as hell aren't scraping the bottom of the barrel to sign fighters. Just because a fighter was hot shit on the local circuit, or in some other promotion, doesn't necessarily mean that he will find great success in the UFC. Look at Takanori Gomi as a prime example. Japanese "legend", but as soon as he comes into the UFC, he gets defeated by Kenny Florian and Clay Guida.
 
They have been the "major leagues" for a while. However, there always will be a few top fighters fluctuating around the smaller orgs. The only difference now is it will be 10x harder for them to try to prove themselves in the top 5 or even top 10 without entering the UFC.
 
Wrong comparison, I dont see Spanish soccer league buying the whole brazilian league for example and after a few months, there s no more brazilian league, of course bigger leagues or organizations will always feed with talents from minor organizations, otherwise Ufc would be replacing all the fighters from TUF.. how bad it would be.. hauhauhauah
The truth soccer for example has reached a good level of competition, thats why there are continent challenges and soccer world championships are, just or bigger than olympics itself, one of the reasons there are at least 4 big leagues:
Spain
England
Italy
France


You need to get your facts straight. Zuffa[parent company of the UFC] was not actively looking to buy out other MMA promotions. The promotions that the UFC ultimately purchase, were going to close doors if the UFC hadn't purchased them. And in all cases[WFA, WEC, Pride FC, and Strikeforce], they were the LAST people approached.

WFA - Was set to go out of business after their first PPV WFA: Street Kings because they couldn't keep the doors open. They actively sought out to sell the promotion, contracts, licenses. Zuffa was the last approached. That is how Rampage, Machida, Kampmann, and Matt Lindland all ended up in the UFC. Because their contracts were purchased by Zuffa.

WEC - Scott Adams and Reed Harris actively sought out other investors to invest in the WEC before they sold a majority stake in the WEC to Zuffa in 2006. Zuffa then kept the promotion open for 4 more years after their purchase. Zuffa was the LAST chance for Scott Adams and Reed Harris before they had to close doors because they couldn't afford to keep WEC open.

Pride FC - Rocked by the Yakuza scandal and being kicked off TV because of it, DREAMSTAGE looked to sell off its assets. Pride FC was for sale, and several investors looked into. WWE was actually in negotiations to buy it headed up by Shane McMahon who is a huge MMA fan/buff. At the last moment WWE pulled out because Vince McMahon felt that Pride FC would not be a good investment because he felt that MMA was a passing fad and would not survive for much longer. DREAMSTAGE actually approached Zuffa, and a deal was made. Zuffa had every intention of keeping Pride FC open as its presence in Japan/South Pacific but had pressure put on them by the Yukuza to operate as they did under the previous ownership. Zuffa shuttered Pride FC rather than be in bed with the Yakuza.

Strikeforce - Scott Coker saw an opening to get into the MMA game in 2006. After EliteXC folded in 2008, Coker actively sought out investors to make a move for EliteXC's spot with CBS/Showtime. San Jose Sports & Entertainment Enterprises stepped up. Coker sold a majority stake of Strikeforce to SJS&E to directly compete with The UFC. They signed Fedor to an unheard of deal, with the promises of PPV dollars in the future, along with several fighters to multi-million dollar deals. The PPVs never materialized, and while Strikeforce was turning a profit, SJS&E was not seeing the return on their investment that they thought they would be seeing so they actively looked to sell its majority stake of Strikeforce and exit the MMA scene. Scott Coker offered to buy back the stake, but SJS&E did not wish to sell it back to Coker. So Scott Coker couldn't afford to purchase it back. SJS&E even approached CBS/Showtime about purchasing its stake in Strikeforce, but they were not interested considering they'd been burned by EliteXC. SJS&E approached Zuffa even though Coker objected, but SJS&E wanted to get out with as much of its initial investment as possible.
 
If all they care about is money, that means they're putting on fights that fans want to see to make said money. "Fans" doesn't just mean "people on sherdog". Casual fans like Sonnen and want to see him fight. That's how they make money.

Learn economics for dummies.
Easy to fix it, instead of fans lets say sport because of course call a fan that would like, and more, pay to watch idiot fights like Sonnen and JBJ, does not even deserves to be called casual fans, more like morons too. And what really matter and thats the whole point, i will explain cause you seem to be a little bit slow... Monopoly will never be good for the open public, thats economics. hahahaah
 
You need to get your facts straight. Zuffa[parent company of the UFC] was not actively looking to buy out other MMA promotions. The promotions that the UFC ultimately purchase, were going to close doors if the UFC hadn't purchased them. And in all cases[WFA, WEC, Pride FC, and Strikeforce], they were the LAST people approached.

WFA - Was set to go out of business after their first PPV WFA: Street Kings because they couldn't keep the doors open. They actively sought out to sell the promotion, contracts, licenses. Zuffa was the last approached. That is how Rampage, Machida, Kampmann, and Matt Lindland all ended up in the UFC. Because their contracts were purchased by Zuffa.

WEC - Scott Adams and Reed Harris actively sought out other investors to invest in the WEC before they sold a majority stake in the WEC to Zuffa in 2006. Zuffa then kept the promotion open for 4 more years after their purchase. Zuffa was the LAST chance for Scott Adams and Reed Harris before they had to close doors because they couldn't afford to keep WEC open.

Pride FC - Rocked by the Yakuza scandal and being kicked off TV because of it, DREAMSTAGE looked to sell off its assets. Pride FC was for sale, and several investors looked into. WWE was actually in negotiations to buy it headed up by Shane McMahon who is a huge MMA fan/buff. At the last moment WWE pulled out because Vince McMahon felt that Pride FC would not be a good investment because he felt that MMA was a passing fad and would not survive for much longer. DREAMSTAGE actually approached Zuffa, and a deal was made. Zuffa had every intention of keeping Pride FC open as its presence in Japan/South Pacific but had pressure put on them by the Yukuza to operate as they did under the previous ownership. Zuffa shuttered Pride FC rather than be in bed with the Yakuza.

Strikeforce - Scott Coker saw an opening to get into the MMA game in 2006. After EliteXC folded in 2008, Coker actively sought out investors to make a move for EliteXC's spot with CBS/Showtime. San Jose Sports & Entertainment Enterprises stepped up. Coker sold a majority stake of Strikeforce to SJS&E to directly compete with The UFC. They signed Fedor to an unheard of deal, with the promises of PPV dollars in the future, along with several fighters to multi-million dollar deals. The PPVs never materialized, and while Strikeforce was turning a profit, SJS&E was not seeing the return on their investment that they thought they would be seeing so they actively looked to sell its majority stake of Strikeforce and exit the MMA scene. Scott Coker offered to buy back the stake, but SJS&E did not wish to sell it back to Coker. So Scott Coker couldn't afford to purchase it back. SJS&E even approached CBS/Showtime about purchasing its stake in Strikeforce, but they were not interested considering they'd been burned by EliteXC. SJS&E approached Zuffa even though Coker objected, but SJS&E wanted to get out with as much of its initial investment as possible.

Ok, someone has been doing his homework, what doesnt change a bit, what is n table, is the fact, for some reason or another all the major events that could and should lock horns with UFC and provide for fans entertaniment, were bought by Zuffa and of course shut down afterwars, Man in economics there s a name for it Truste.
 
Easy to fix it, instead of fans lets say sport because of course call a fan that would like, and more, pay to watch idiot fights like Sonnen and JBJ, does not even deserves to be called casual fans, more like morons too. And what really matter and thats the whole point, i will explain cause you seem to be a little bit slow... Monopoly will never be good for the open public, thats economics. hahahaah

Regardless if what you want to call them, casual fans bring in money. It's the difference between a 150k Bensin/Edgar 2 ppv and a 700k gsp ppv. You seem to not know how the UFC makes money.
 
Ok, someone has been doing his homework, what doesnt change a bit, what is n table, is the fact, for some reason or another all the major events that could and should lock horns with UFC and provide for fans entertaniment, were bought by Zuffa and of course shut down afterwars, Man in economics there s a name for it Truste.

WEC = kept open 4 years following Zuffa purchase
Pride FC = was planned on being Zuffa's entity in Japan, but due to the Yakuza trying to put pressure on Zuffa to involve them, they declined.
Strikeforce = following this final event in a few weeks, Strikeforce will have been kept open 3 years following purchase by Zuffa.
 
WEC = kept open 4 years following Zuffa purchase
Pride FC = was planned on being Zuffa's entity in Japan, but due to the Yakuza trying to put pressure on Zuffa to involve them, they declined.
Strikeforce = following this final event in a few weeks, Strikeforce will have been kept open 3 years following purchase by Zuffa.

Nice, so they survived more than a few months, let s be honest, i dont have deeper info of names, data, only the general, but its enough to analyse the panoramic scenario. Probably Zuffa kept holding other organizations while they were dropping gold, never with the true intention yo make it prosper and create rivalry with long term with their beloved and lucrative UFC. Sometimes seems like you are defending the point as Zuffa is actually a wannabe hero of the sport, buying organizations faded to collapse. Thats how reaal and businnes works... How many companies just bought others just to shut down doors or fade or even incorporate trademarks, thats whats happening to MMA undoubtely.
 
Regardless if what you want to call them, casual fans bring in money. It's the difference between a 150k Bensin/Edgar 2 ppv and a 700k gsp ppv. You seem to not know how the UFC makes money.

You keep boating around details "And what really matter and thats the whole point, i will explain cause you seem to be a little bit slow... Monopoly will never be good for the open public, thats economics. hahahaah"

I gave up on you son, may the destiny, god or whatever you believe and keep you confortable help you... hauahuahuaha
 
Now that the UFC owns Strikeforce, WEC and has purchased every other up and coming organization, would you say that they are the major leagues of MMA and any other organization are the minor leagues? I mean they obviously have a Monopoly when it comes to putting on the big shows with the big names. How does everyone feel about that? I think its going to come to a point where the cards are going to have to be more frequent in order to give the fans the fights they want to see...

You can't compare it to the minor leagues of baseball and hockey because those leagues have contracts to work together and move guys up and down. MMA promotions don't work anything like that.
 
right..

that's why the WEC guys stomped on the UFC LW's

the wec was legit, i've never questioned how good they were, plus they belonged to zuffa since 2006. Hard to call them ''competition''.
Look at Shields, Lombard, Jorge Santiago, Nick diaz and others. They were no1 in other promotions and they never got gold in the ufc.
 
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Nice, so they survived more than a few months, let s be honest, i dont have deeper info of names, data, only the general, but its enough to analyse the panoramic scenario. Probably Zuffa kept holding other organizations while they were dropping gold, never with the true intention yo make it prosper and create rivalry with long term with their beloved and lucrative UFC. Sometimes seems like you are defending the point as Zuffa is actually a wannabe hero of the sport, buying organizations faded to collapse. Thats how reaal and businnes works... How many companies just bought others just to shut down doors or fade or even incorporate trademarks, thats whats happening to MMA undoubtely.

The point he is making is that the other orgs FAILED. They were on their way down in flames and the UFC (as an ever growing company looking to expand) swooped in and acquired their assets.

They have a saying for it in war "To the victor go the spoils."

BTW, why in the hell would they run an org as their own competition, or as a feeder org if others will do it anyway at no cost to them?
 
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